mr. cheeg said, it will not include the letter of legitimization, the city administrator has that file, but a month later, he still never responded. david silver said -- the lawyer for the land -- okay -- i should have appealed the za letter on the day it was issued or during the 15 day appeal period thereafter, but i didn't know when it was approved, indeed, i requested, do you know if the draft letter of legitimization was supposed to be posted as as well, if it wasn't, mr. sanchez should know it wasn't, and i had inquired it was signed and it would like the opportunity to appeal this and i wrote to you that i would be filing appeals with the board of supervisors for the conditional use and the ceqa and that they would be filed on time and they were. so, i would -- a jurisdictional request, the board must find that the city intentionally or found that the requestor was elated, i am delayed by that, thank you. >> do you care to state your name for the record. >> my name is mike ka irvin ringel