mr. chertoff, you have addressed that question. crops up from time to time and has been looked at thoroughly by everybody. people witnessed the planes going into the buildings. it is like holocaust denial and people who believe the president was not born in hawaii. it is just a myth. host: kevin been co goes to the loss will at drexel university. kevin, please go ahead. caller: how much deference to the executive branch show the judiciary regarding issues of national security? should the president be allowed to ignore court orders when we are talking but the war on terror? -- talking about the war on terror? guest: every president with the exception of abraham lincoln has always abided by court orders, would you agree or disagree with the order. obviously, you have the right to appeal and the executive branch will appeal when they disagree with a lower court decision. but the answer is, no, the president does have to abide by the law as set forth by the courts. the one exception was abraham lincoln. he was ordered during the civil