>> mr. chism. >> i think that this is an institution that judges itself scomprk that your conscience, each member's conscience and the variables that reflect on this institution, may be considered as you see fit. obviously i deal with the charges that have been found. i deal with the proceedings, and based solely on what was found, it is my recommendation for a censure. >> in the history of this institution, has a member ever been disciplined for such a large number of vie layings, as in this case? if so, what's the case history? >> i think my recollection is that in a matter of digs there were eight found counts. i'm sorry, wilson, charles h. wilson. >> so that's the most? >> yes. >> the gentleman yields back. do other members that have questions wish to be heard? >> the question of not participating i would like to respond to. >> if i could, mr. rangel, if we could ask the questions. and i also note in recognizing mr. harper, that the chair did note during the hearing that the respondent is not

mr. chism. >> thank you madam chair.member bonner, members of the committee, the house's authority to discipline its own members is explicit in the constitution. jon: some fascinating developments underway in washington right now as the house ethics committee gets ready to announce its punishment of charles rangel, the long serving harlem democrat, 30 years in the house of representatives, who was convicted earlier this week on 11 ethics charges. what we are really waiting to hear is what congressman rangel has to say himself. he has asks for permission to address those fellow members who will sit in judgment of him. when he does make that statement we will take you back there live. in the meantime there is other news to bring you. jenna: some breaking news in the natalee holloway case involving tests on some human remains. a dna testing is right now being performed on a bone that was found in aruba, a jawbone, to see -- to see if it belongs to the alabama teenager who went missing on that island in 2005. we know the jaw

chism. here's his exit. congressman rangel. while leaving his own trial, watch this, he makes sure to give committee members handshakes. trial went on today without him. one more thing. mrrangel insisted he didn't have a lawyer, right? take a look at this. as he walked out of today's hearings, he was with a man, the guy we circled named abe lowell, who -- abbe lowell, he happens to be a high-profile washington attorney and he sat behind congressman rangel in the first row and left when he left. he's the kind of attorney used to defending politicians under investigation. he's represented many. we got in touch with rangel's office and say he's a longtime friend and supporter of the congressman and congressman rangel continues to remain without council. he was just there as a friend. melanie sloan is here. she joins us along with roland martin and we have eric erikkson. melanie i mentioned mr. lowell was with him but not formally representing him. you say the congressman could be committing an ethic's vice during his trial. how so? >> if in lowell was representing him, let's just understand this. is mr. lowell -- are mr. rangel, are they saying that abbie lowell happened t