mr. clay, he told the detectives. a real ladies' man. he already had two children with two women, another on the way. a nice simple life, said daniel clay. >> i live like it should be like the seventies, free love, peace and love. that's my motto. like i don't like fighting, i don't like violence, i don't -- i just like smoking weed and having sex. >> reporter: well, really. sex and pot? oh, he probably liked those things a lot didn't he? but peace? non-violence? hmmm. time to figure out mr. clay. and this was when detective preadmore went to work. >> you told me you never had sex with chelsea bruck. >> never had sex, never nothing with her. >> would there be any reason that your dna would be with chelsea bruck? >> no. >> or on her clothes or in her hair? >> not to my knowledge. >> reporter: a good interrogation is like peeling an onion to get to the truth at the core. >> reporter: coming up -- daniel clay's story starts to change. >>> when i ask you about chelsea bruck and having sex, there's

. >> the chair now recognizes mr. claythe ranking member of the institutions subcommittee for one minute. he is not here. we will then go to the gentleman from michigan who also appears to not be here. the gentleman from minnesota is recognized for one minute. >> think the chair and ranking member for this hearing. a lot has been said about the equifax breach. there are a few things we have to bear in mind. players in two other reportingry of credit dominate the whole field. know, i have been concerned about market concentration. big andequifax is too we need to increase competition. if they had to worry about a theycompetitor, i believe would be better at safeguarding consumers data. hights are concentrated so that basically other than they can be lax with the data of people. to people talking about issues that are important. there has been some movement in of -- well i will leave that. >> time has expired. miss moloney, you have one minute. equifax was not just a breach of security. massiveot just a database breach. it w

chair recognizes the gentleman from missouri, mr. clay, ranking member of the financial institution's subcommittee for one minute. >> apparently he is not here. we then will go to the gentleman from michigan. also appears not to be here. >>> gentleman from minnesota, mr. ellison, is recognized for one minute. >> i would like to thank the chair and ranking member for this important hearing. a lot has been said about the equifax breach. and a lot of the same things will be repeated today. but there are a few things that i think we have to bear in mind. one is that equifax and two other big players in this industry of credit reporting dominate basically the whole field. as members of this committee know, i have been quite concerned about microconcentration. i believe equifax is too big, it needs to be reduced in size. we need to increase competition. and if equifax had to worry about a real competitor, i believe they would be better at safeguarding the data of consumers. it is the fact that markets have concentrated so high that basically ot

and while you are looking for that, i think my colleague, mr. clay, talk about testing a new process, particularly -- >> forty, 40 people. >> and how many do you anticipate hiring by census day, or is that the total number? >> forty i believe is the total number. >> okay. >> to date. >> thank you very much. any anticipated numbers by census date at this point you are not sure? >> we will see how much comes in. a lot of community organizations are well aware of the census, have participated in it before and are signing up themselves. so depending on whether we get a good flow, , consistent with improving it over the last time, that will determine how many people are needed. >> okay, thank you for that. i know you also spoke about testing of new procedures. i'd like to talk particularly about in rural allen and tribal areas, and also tying those, those procedures to the budget, constraints that we currently face. secretary ross, what are you doing to ensure that these new processes will work smoothly in rural ireland and tribal areas? >> well, tribal a

the chair now recognizes the gentleman from missouri, mr. clay, the ranking member of the financial institution's subcommittee for one minute. apparently he is not here. we then will go to the gentleman from michigan. also appears not to be here. the gentleman from minnesota is mr. -- mr. ellison is recognized for one minute. >> well, i'd like to thank the chair and ranking member for this important hearing. a lot has been said about the equifax breach. and a lot of the same things will be repeated today. but there's a few things that i think we've got to bear in mind. one is that equifax and two other big players in this industry of credit reporting dominate basically the whole field. as members of this committee know, i've been quite concerned about market concentration. i believe equifax is just too big. it needs to be reduced in size. we need to increase competition. and if equifax had to worry about a real competitor, i believe they would be better at safeguarding the data of consumers. it is the fact that markets have concentrated so high t

while you're looking, i think my colleague mr. clay talked about testing of new processes -- >> okay. the answer is 40. 40 people. >> 40. how many do you anticipate in hiring by census day? is that the total? >> 40 i believe is the total number. >> okay. to date. okay. thank you very much. any anticipated numbers by census day? at this point? >> we'll see how much comes in. a lot of community organizations are well aware of the census, had participated in it before sdp are signing up themselves. so depending on whether we get a good flow consistent with improving it over the last time, that will determine how many people are needed. >> okay. thank you for that. i know you also spoke about testing of new procedures. i'd like to talk about in rule, allen and triable areas. and tie in those procedures to the budget constraints that we currently face. secretary ross, what are you doing to ensure that these new processes will work smoothly in rule allen and tribal areas? >> the tribal areas are one of the specific segments that are being te

. >> arrested this evening in the district attorney's office was clay shaw, age 54, of 1313 darby street, from new orleans, louisiana. mrharged with participation in a conspiracy to murder john f. kennedy. >> clay shaw was a very respected business man in new orleans. he had been a distinguished soldier in world war ii. he was also a heterosexual and closeted, and i think that played a part. and then they realized the truth that there isn't anything there. >> the case he has built against clay shaw is based on testimony that did not pass a lie detector test that garrison ordered and garrison knew it. >> garrison started bribing witnesses, intimidating witnesses. >> he said i could be made to serve this whole nine-year sentence. or i could be cut loose right away. >> hypnotizing witnesses. >> we decided to give him objectifying to make sure he was telling the truth. >> leon. >> leon. does leon have a last name? >> oswald. >> would you say these methods were illegal? >> i would very say illegal and unethical. >> he had everyone and their grandmother involved in the assassination. at one time, it was oil millionaires. then

mr. chairman. >> thank you, senator. senator blumenthal, who i would point out is one of the real leaders in the clay/hunt suicide prevention bill and did great work on that in the last congress. >> thank you. thanks, mr. chairman. thanks for your leadership on this important issue. i was indeed the lead democratic co-sponsor on the clay hunt bill along with senator john mccain on the republican side. and believe that it was a start but only a first step in this effort. and much more needs to be done. obviously, there are steps that have been taken by the v.a. in furthering this effort. and i know we'll hear from dr. shulkin later, but the more i learn about this problem, the more complex and challenging i think it is. dr. bryan, one of the very important statistics in your testimony is that the suicide rate among veterans who do not use v.a. services increased by 39% between 2001 and 2014. whereas the suicide rate among v.a. users increased by only 9%. put aside the exact numbers, what i am hearing again and again and again is that the suicide rates are increasing among veterans who lack access, that because of geographic

mr. daly, this is a reference, by the way to clay daly, the former cfo, are clearly out for number one.represent me, a long-term shareholder. nor do i believe they represent the majority of individual and institutional shareowners. >> daly has more shares than -- is he out for number one >> he seems to be. he says, well, he goes on as well, to talk about daly but we got to get through digital first. let's do that first. board member at snap, he is a board member at snap, i can safely say peltz and daly would be the last two people in the world that anyone would call to get any insight on digital and e-commerce >> he's got -- because of snap, he's got an insight? >> yes and finally one would hope he says that mr. daly would have learned his lesson about responsible goal setting, this in response to a question as to whether or not the goals are too low. >> so in other words, the cfo did not really work for the ceo. >> mr. daly did not work for mr. laughly. >> he points out during his first term as cfo, the company would grow sales 7%, 8%, eps, 13 to 15, both missed by a mile, the stock pr

mr. ross, the italian art teacher in our high school, because i had no reason not to accept him emotionally and psychologically. so the image got right through to my heart. >> hinojosa: you're working with clay for the first time in your life, and what happens at that moment? >> magic. i started to be... understand that i could actually take an inert form and turn it into a vessel with my energy, my input, my ideas. >> hinojosa: and what did that... what did that mean, you know, profoundly? >> well, it meant that i could control something; i could be celebrated for my creativity and my ideas, because it was my pot-- not somebody else's pot. and i also figured out that people valued my ability to demonstrate that i had capability in the form of ceramics, because you made the vessels , you presented them, you gave them as gifts, and so forth. so i began to receive applause and accolades for something that i had learned how to do on my own, and i was being celebrated for my "talent." i liked that feeling a lot; that was pretty powerful. >> hinojosa: you end up going to college... >> yup. >> hinojosa: ...even though you're essentially put into college on probation? >> correct. >> hinojosa: by no