mr. clemens had dedicated his short time at the colorado department of corrections on reducing the large number of individuals in the system that were in segregation, in fact, colorado was one of the leaders, unfortunately for incarcerating people in segregation. i was picked because i had the same vision in wisconsin was able to do some things there. this gives me an opportunity to continue that vision. and having spent some time in administrative segregation myself recently, it re-enforced my feelings about it. these are my feelings, i'll summarize it very quickly in my mind over 30 years in the criminal justice system, that administrative seg zbags is overused, misused around abused. and what i feel is that we are failing in this particular area in our mission. our mission really isn't about running more efficient institutions, although that's something that we want to do, that's something we need to do, but that's not our primary mission. 97% of all of our inmates return and out of those 97% some of them have been in administrative segregation and our duty and our primary mission is

mr. clemens had dedicated his short time at the colorado department of corrections on reducing the large number of individuals in the system that were in segregation, in fact, colorado was one of the leaders, unfortunately for incarcerating people in segregation. i was picked because i had the same vision in wisconsin was able to do some things there. this gives me an opportunity to continue that vision. and having spent some time in administrative segregation myself recently, it re-enforced my feelings about it. these are my feelings, i'll summarize it very quickly in my mind over 30 years in the criminal justice system, that administrative seg zbags is overused, misused around abused. and what i feel is that we are failing in this particular area in our mission. our mission really isn't about running more efficient institutions, although that's something that we want to do, that's something we need to do, but that's not our primary mission. 97% of all of our inmates return back to the community. and out of those 97% some of them have been in administrative segregation and our duty and

mr. steve clemens here. >> hi, folks. i'm steve clemens. i've been obsessed with having you here. so excited. this is not a commercial for seemens but i'm thrilled we were so obsessed. when they brought curiosity here and said they will do it, i've been obsessing -- what's the pipeline like of younger adam stelter ins out there? is the country getting it right in doing that? semens donated a few billion of dollars of this software you use÷i&é to do the landings. they've gone to uhcleveland, o. they're going to richmond to try to give young people an opportunity to play around this w this fancy software that you used. it made me think about is the pipeline of young talent like you there and what should we do it should be and then we'll wran it up and then i get to interview the next guy on the next stage. so megan, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> great. great question. more people like me -- actually i do that -- not cloning but my wife and i have a whole program based on that. but i'm sure my wife trisha is loving that right 'honow. oversharing, right? i think the most importan

mr. clemens. i feel i am fulfilling his vision. i respect him and i have known him for quite sometime. working with the association of the state corrections administration. we have done a lot of work and let me throw things out there as i am running o

mr. clemens. i feel i am fulfilling his vision. i respect him and i have known him for quite sometime. working with the association of the state corrections administration. we have done a lot of work and let me throw things out there as i am running out of time. for some reason we seem to think that for admin seg, someone will sell 23 hours a day. who defines that? it's probably some court case that mandates that and why isn't it 20 hours a day or 18 hours a day. they work their way down to 10. that's one thing we will be doing. it's been automatic that someone on death row will stay in administrative segregation until they are put to death. some are found innocent and released and we will change our policy on that and giving them the opportunity to get outside of yourself. where we will end up is a small handful of all that we are talking about. for those in administrative segregation, that doesn't mean we give up on them, but i sat there for over 20 hours. this was no way to treat an american. no way they should be treating someone like this and internationally it's not a way to be t

mr. steve clemens here. >> hi, folks. i'm steve clemens. i'm editor at large of the atlantic and i've been obsessed with having you here. i am so excited. this is not a commercial for seemens but i'm thrilled we were so obsessed. when they brought curiosity here and said they will do it, i've been obsessing -- what's the pipeline like of younger adam steltzners out there? is the country getting it right in doing that? i know semens donated a few billion of dollars of this software you used to simulate the landings. and i know they've gone to places like cleveland, ohio, and they're going to richmond to try to give young people an opportunity to play around with this fancy software that you used. it made me think about is the pipeline of young talent like you there and what should we do to enhance it if it's not what it should be and then we'll wrap it up and then i get to interview the next guy on the next stage. so megan, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> great. great question. i think for me, the key to making more people like me -- actual

mr. steve clemens here. >> hi, folks. i'm steve clemens. i've been obsessed with having you here.commercial for seemens but i'm thrilled we were so obsessed. when they brought curiosity here and said they will do it, i've been obsessing -- what's the pipeline like of younger adam stelter ins out there? is the country getting it right in doing that? semens donated a few billion of dollars of this software you use÷i&é to do the landings. they've gone to uhcleveland, o. they're going to richmond to try to give young people an opportunity to play around this w this fancy software that you used. it made me think about is the pipeline of young talent like you there and what should we do it should be and then we'll wran it up and then i get to interview the next guy on the next stage. so megan, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> great. great question. more people like me -- actually i do that -- not cloning but my wife and i have a whole program based on that. but i'm sure my wife trisha is loving that right 'honow. oversharing, right? i think the most important thing that we can give ou