mr. clemons. mr. mcnamee says he did not tell the full truth because, "i was trying not to hurt the guy. i felt awful for being in this situation i put myself into. there was a feeling of betrayal. i should not have done it, but i did not want to work him as bad as i could." that is no excuse. it is a serious matter that mr. mcnamee did not tell the investigators the full truth. we need to keep this in mind in evaluating his credibility today. mr. clemons has visited with many committee members personally in the last few days. at one point, he -- one point he and his attorneys have made is that it would make no sense for yen -- for him to testify under oath if he actually did steroids. in judging his credibility, the risk to his credibility in testifying today needs to be taken into account. it is also relevant that mr. clemons is a credible and convincing person. i am also aware of the tremendous amount of good mr. clemons has done through the roger clemens foundation and i thank you for helping s