mr. cocker noted the wells notice with pem coand mentioned sfdpd had the same strategy. it is the same total return strategy, it isn't the same vehicle so [inaudible] definitely keep the board and the committee and staff abreast but now there is no real material information regarding that. the custom target date funds have done well. they beat the simple benchmark as well as the composite bench mark which includes the specialty like commodities and [inaudible] and over the 6 month period all the target date funds exceeded both the benchmarks. i'll stop there and take comments. >> yes, you can count on me for a question. first of all, let me thapg staff and the consultant for my favorite report. this was by special request so i thank you. this is pages 34 and 35. let me refer to page 35 of the report. i have a academic background and i grade and this is the teachers score card. page 35 shows the added value of staffing consultant on this. let me cut to the chase, you see the total value added, 9, 835, 00. what that says is based on selection of these specific managers we