mr. cofinas is a good guy. in prak thinks is this ain't working out you say? >> well, receipt me break it point by point. first point in terms of the folks that are, if you will, dependent on health care and will end up paying for it. reality is that we have many that didn't have health care coverage. emergency room was their coverage we ended up paying for it anyway. >> it still will be. >> no. >> they will go. >> i, the difference here is that now you motivate people to take care of themselves. and, at the end of the day, it ends up making it easier for people who are now worried about whether to get sick. can't take the day off. and that i willne -- illness ge worse. >> i'm not one of those that doesn't look, it has good things preexisting condition thing is good. it could have been done in a simpler way. i got to go thchl is a good conversation we'll continue it. good to see you. thank you. directly ahead are women getting a bad deal in america? and michelle bachmann will be here to d >> school says yoga pants intrude upon a quote, positive and respectful