johnson then was informed by the hearing judge, mr. cogin that his application would be denied for those municipal code violations as well as the code section 2a80 which basically -- get that as well -- states that -- basically chief powers stating that we didn't -- he did not find -- to be suitable for a tow driver at that time. and that basically states that the chief of police may refuse to issue any permit that is subject to police department investigation or issuance if it shall appear the character of the business or applicant requesting such permit does not warrant the issuance thereof. so, you know, the main thing basically, there's a couple of things going on. and in all fairness, i have other applicants that fall into that same category. they have to wait the allotted time, which is -- could be three or four years, depending how long that takes. so it's kind of not fair to them. i explained to mr. johnson that november of 2013 he would be able to reapply. >> just for clarification, this is a permit denial, not a revocation, correct