. >> thank you, mr. cohn. >> thank you, mr. chairman, just very, very briefly, i just want to reiterate that the states are here to help. we would like to work closely with your committee in developing some transmission planning and federal preemption should only be used as a last resort. >> thank you, mr. wellinghoff. i would suggest that hopefully you come away with this, number one, we're not as far apart as we initially seemed to be. we all have the same goals, to reduce carbon and to ultimately develop as much renewables as possible to do that, but i think we need to remember that there are non-market barriers that we need to look at to how to get that development done and as part of the non-market barriers we do need to put a construct together to allow states to initiate the process of planning, siding and cost allocation to deliver renewables. we also have to have the back pressure of the federal government standing there, being able to step in as noes let it happen and get it done. >> thank you very much. and in the sp