collier said and a witness. >> i would like to call to the stand mr. steve forbes. [applause] >> steve forbes. any forbesians in the house? >> place your hand on the arm -- 400 riches. these were to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? >> god and man, yes. >> all right. could you please state your occupation and your qualifications to provide this testimony force today? >> i am editor-in-chief and chairman of forbes and media. you have been following the mack nations of the federal reserve and the deception, my grandfather wrote the story about july and which created the federal reserve bank in 1912, 1911, the fed action was created in 1913, the mechanism was put in place before that. i recently co-authored a book called money about how the federal reserve has made things worse, not better. >> let's follow upon the last point for the jury. if i may. how has the federal reserve, a lot of people's that the fed was there to provide a system, you are arguing it made things worse. could you explain? >> every major economic crisis like the great depression, the