mr. commissioner andrews' proposal of having a simple overhead projector next to the podium, no changing the podium, put a screen? >> the problem we get into -- i know it's very difficult for people not in the construction business to believe how difficult some of this stuff can be, but you are all very familiar with the city's systems, too. the problem is he we can't just run wires from the podium across the floor. that for sure is going to be an a-d-a problem. so, we have a concrete floor. we wind up having to core through the floor, you wind up having to run conduits under the floor. you wind up coring back up under the stage to get over to where the rest of the equipment is. and it gets worse because at the main library, you can't core the floors without x-raying the floors before you do that because they're loaded with electrical conduit, piping, reinforcing steel. the next thing you know, you have to call out an engineer from dpw to tell you how to detail this 3-inch hole you have to make. so, it gets -- that's why, that's why these things always become more complicated than one wo