mr. conaway: thank you mr. chairman -- mr. conyers: thank you, mr. chairman. i think examining how many of us are here indicates how strongly the congressional black caucus feels about law enforcement and the african-american community. back in 1994, i was able to put into the crime bill section 14 141 and that deals with the practice investigation and highlights things that are going on in police democratics all over the country. and it's in that spirit that we now are proud of the job that the department of justice is doing because they come in with a very impartial method of examining this. i think your summary was excellent and we have to continue putting this in the spotlight. i notice that this and other police relations matters are now getting more attention than they've ever gotten before. it used to be that there was hardly any mention of them. i think that's a good step forward. and i think this will be instructive for many of the investigations and reviews going on in police departments all over the country. thank you, mr. chairman. mr. butterfield: