well, when i challenged mr. conethis, things got spirited. >> american business is over regulated. businesses are unable to expand -- >> that's not true. >> it is true. >> banks have been able to lend. you yourself the president of goldman sachs said we have a stronger balance sheet than ever. banks don't have a lending problem, middle market banks have a lending problem. >> stephanie, how do you get a strong balance sheet? you horde cash. you don't lend. the strongest balance sheet in the world -- >> you mean to tell me goldman sachs, jp aren't lending? they are lending. >> they are lending to the most credit worthy borrowers in the world. you don't expand the economy by lending to the top borrowers. you expand the economy by lending to smaller medium-sized businesses that are actually hiring people to grow their businesses. >> or of course, collapse the economy by lending to non-credible borrowers and yes, on one hand you can say hoarding cash is holding us back. hoarding cash could also be known as banks did not h

tom: does he miss mr. cone? megan: i don't think there is any missingness between either of them.ngton? we talked with kevin surly about this attorney memo. what i want to know is ohio and portman, in the health care debate you've done reporting on heroin, opiods in rob portman, does the president understand there's no debate on this among these senators? megan: the president largely left the entire health care process to other people in his administration. he's not playing an active role. i think we're exactly right to look at rob portman. he's going to be the one to watch. obviously they've already lost two senators in susanne collins and rand paul who are definite noes on the rewrite of the bill. we've got west virginia and ohio and dean heller in nevada. that is about portman so interesting, when we look at the cut and what moderates are concerned about, things like opiods and how elderly and poor will fare under this bill, mitch mcconnell is telling those not to worry about the ultimate impact on some of the most disenfranchised in your state. i'm not sure it is enough to swa

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