mr. conley, who's been waiting. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want i wanted to make sure i followed your answer to the $25,000 espresso machines. what are unproepuated funds. >> we call them a nonappropriated fund. on a base, a golf course, a bowling center, when you buy a hamburger, pay a round of golf, the dollars that airman and family is going to pay, those are nonappropriated fund dollars. >> generated by those activities. >> were government issued purchase cards or debit cards used for that ak cquisition? >> no, sir. >> okay. let me ask our igs. is it ever permissible to use a government issued purchase card, debit card or the like for a hair salon session, gym membership, personal gym membership or personal gift cards? miss casper? >> hair salons, we didn't have it in our transactions, but we did some research on the idea of gym membership and there is a comptroller general decision that says in some circumstances, it is permissible if it's part of some health and welfare program. >> authorized by your employer. >> right. >> rig. >> obv

mr. conley, is recognize. >> thank you. son, in light of the facts that have come out and in light of your review thus far, had the first family been in the family quarters or anywhere in the white house, would you conclude professionally that there was a threat to the first family? >> yes. i think mr. gonzales coming into the main floor of the mansion is a threat. i think it is important to i was a freshman in high school in november 1963, and all of us who lived at a time remembered where we i was n high school were when we heard the terrible news from dallas. that secretnd is service agent mr. hill who threw car thatn the speeding contained the president, the first lady, and used his body to shield her. mission theed secret service has. it is not an easy mission. troubling to all americans that our duly elected president and his family were actually potentially in real jeopardy on the white house grounds itself. i wonder whether you would agree that when you look at every aspect of this, sadly, it represents a comprehens

mr. conley, is recognize. >> thank you. son, in light of the facts that have come out and in light of your review thus far, had the first family been in the family quarters or anywhere in the white house, would you conclude professionally that there was a threat to the first family? >> yes. i think mr. gonzales coming into the main floor of the mansion is a threat. i think it is important to i was a freshman in high school in november 1963, and all of us who lived at a time remembered where we i was n high school were when we heard the terrible news from dallas. that secretnd is service agent mr. hill who threw car thatn the speeding contained the president, the first lady, and used his body to shield her. mission theed secret service has. it is not an easy mission. troubling to all americans that our duly elected president and his family were actually potentially in real jeopardy on the white house grounds itself. i wonder whether you would agree that when you look at every aspect of this, sadly, it represents a comprehens