mr. conner, and this is probably what you were referring to the sba, but your testimony notes that according to the fcc three out of every small and mid-size businesses report having been effected by cyber attacks. so what is the role of the fcc in preventing the attacks or aiding the small business community? i'm not familiar with the -- >> i think increasingly the networks underpin all those attacks. you've got the isps, the carriers themselves, and you've got the devices attaching to it. i think one of the areas that we must remember is it's not always outside where those attack vectors come from. and just like organized crime found its way inside organizations, i think increasingly we're going to have to look at that as an attack vector. and that should be something that the fcc takes into consideration, is they look at how to deal with it, in addition to the isp filtering and other pieces they use. but one thing i would caution, i hear a lot of rhetoric around building separate networks and having lived in a world that i'm old enough that we had separate networks but only had clear peop

mr. conner. some have argued that before we entered the cyber security debate we should heed the hip kratic oath and make sure in the first place we do no harm. if there were one caution that you could offer us before legislating, what would that be? mr. conway, why don't you start? >> i think the where i would start as a government is the bully pulpit, frankly. i spent a lot of my personal time and with this team and others spending a lot of time educating. and i think quality is a great example that this government got right. they did quality, they just got on the bully pulpit and think quality is important. lexicon is not here, still isn't here the way it was. is someone started quality saying i'm going to get the sixth sigma, they would know what it meant when quality started. you heard cost quality, i hear cost of security. we're focused on what it cost. are you focused on the total cost of security or just if the cost to implement something. i would start with education in your bully pulpit

mr. bill conner, who is the president and chief executive officer of entrust, mr. conner we look forward to your comments. >> morning. it a privilege and honor to spend a morning here with you out of the cyber warfare game to discuss and educate what is happening below the screen. i like to focus my early comments on the arms race on one particular vector of security. and it called man in the browser. that vector of security is probably the leading cyber stealer in the world today and it been around a while and it has been impacts small and m medium, business. specifically, it's known as zeus, it's commonly now combined with spy eye, for hothose of yo who do not know it was the ri e original man in the browser and went by the name spy eye. their tools and technology were next generatiogeneration, they 2010, behind the scenes, as law enforcement began to attack it, the man took his money and ran. now you can buy it a off the internet and buy it with 24/7 support. no longer do you have to create the code. now you can buy it. how does it work, it complicated. you canno

mr. conner. some argued before we entered the cybersecurity debate, we should heed the hippocratic oath and make sure in the first place we do no harm. if there's one caution you could offer us before legislating, what would that be? mr. conner, starting with you. >> start with the bully pulpit frankly. i spent my team with this team and others, spent a lot of time educating, and i think quality is a great example this government got right. they didn't heed at quality. they got on the bully pulpit to say security was important. the lexicon still is not here, but someone started quality saying i'm going to get to cig sigma, and we knew what it meant when it started. you heard cost equality. i hear cost of security. we are focused on what cost? are you focused on the total cost of sciewrt or just the -- security or just the cost to implement something? start with education in your bully pulpit. the second thing i would start on is the inability of businesses to talk to governments or to themselves

mr. conner as you were talking about zeus merging with spy eye, some of us wondered, maybe that should have gun throu -- should have gone through an fcc process and it would have never happened. okay, now we will get serious. i'll turn to my friend and colleague from florida who has brought so much to this debate. >> i want to thank each of you for your out satanding testimon. this is one of the best panels that has been assembled on a given subject manner and it highly instructive. i cannot help but feel like it's trying to get socks on an octopus though, it massive. i think that we all have a pretty good sense of what the threat is. i do not think that we have a clear picture of really what to do with it. there are so many agencies. there was a mention of a 1986 law that i want to hear more about. we have talked about public/private partnerships we know that 95% of this is in the private sector and 5% in the government. where do we begin with this? what are the legal roadblocks as any of you see them right now that are holding us back to do what my next question would be, what is the new

mr. conner. similar with doctors, we should heed the hippocratic oath and make sure that in the first place, we do no harm. if you could offer us that advice for legislating, would that be? >> the way i would start is with government employees. i spend a lot of my time with this team and others educating. i think quality is a great example that government ought right. if someone started quality, they would not know what it meant. you hear cost of quality. i hear cost of security. your focus on what cost? the total cost of security, or just the cost to implement something? i would start with the education in your bully pulpit. the second thing is, start on the inability of businesses to talk to governments or to themselves because of antitrust and the patchwork legislation in the states. i am tired of it being a one- way communication street to intelligence and nothing in return. i understand they legally cannot do it, but if it is a company that is tasked with protecting our government and enterp

mr. conner. similar with doctors, we should heed the hippocratic oath and make sure that in the first place, we do no harm. if you could offer us that advice for legislating, would that be? >> the way i would start is with government employees. i spend a lot of my time with this team and others educating. i think quality is a great example that government ought right. if someone started quality, they would not know what it meant. you hear cost of quality. i hear cost of security. your focus on what cost? the total cost of security, or just the cost to implement something? i would start with the education in your bully pulpit. the second thing is, start on the inability of businesses to talk to governments or to themselves because of antitrust and the patchwork legislation in the states. i am tired of it being a one- way communication street to intelligence and nothing in return. i understand they legally cannot do it, but if it is a company that is tasked with protecting our government and enterp

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