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mr. corcoran. >> so barbara, here's what i'm wondering about, evan corcoran, here he represents a pathologicale who knows is a pathological liar, before he ever goes to work for him as a lawyer. that pathological liar, says to him, there's no documents over there. this sounds to me like, you know, we some giant organized crime boss, says to the, lawyer don't look over there is no guns over there. and the lawyer says the fbi, there is no guns over there. doesn't a lawyer at some point in this transaction have a responsibility not to just kind of innocently conveyed to the fbi, and to federal prosecutors, what a pathological liar's told him. >> yes, so lawrence, you're define a phrase known as willful blindness. nothing to see here folks look the other way don't pay attention to saying, well certainly a lawyer has a duty of diligence, and diligent inquiry, and he would have to report to the fbi, in this instance what he believes to be true if he's making an assertion, to the justice department about the location of these documents, that's why this test my is so important, and why jack smith want
mr. corcoran. >> so barbara, here's what i'm wondering about, evan corcoran, here he represents a pathologicale who knows is a pathological liar, before he ever goes to work for him as a lawyer. that pathological liar, says to him, there's no documents over there. this sounds to me like, you know, we some giant organized crime boss, says to the, lawyer don't look over there is no guns over there. and the lawyer says the fbi, there is no guns over there. doesn't a lawyer at some point in...
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mr. corcoran. so he drafts it, but she signs it, which by the way, joy, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to say why on god's green earth didn't he sign it? can you say fall guy? it's basically, let's get her to sign it. so the issue for the prosecutors is who gave that information to mr. corcoran? so presumably at some point you get to donald trump. and this is why lawyers can be so important in this investigation, whether it's the january 6th part or the mar-a-lago part, which is if you are asking your lawyers to commit a crime, such as saying something that's not true to the government, that's a crime. making a false statement, obstructing the government. if you do that, lawyers then can be asked to testify. normally, there's an attorney/client privilege. if you're my client, joy, you and i can talk and nobody gets to know about it. but if you were to ask me or i were to ask you to commit a crime, all bets are off. gross hypothetical. but that's what happens here. if donald trump was basic
mr. corcoran. so he drafts it, but she signs it, which by the way, joy, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to say why on god's green earth didn't he sign it? can you say fall guy? it's basically, let's get her to sign it. so the issue for the prosecutors is who gave that information to mr. corcoran? so presumably at some point you get to donald trump. and this is why lawyers can be so important in this investigation, whether it's the january 6th part or the mar-a-lago part, which is if you...
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mr. corcoran is now where, in the middle stage of the transition mr. cohen went through.ey both share a client who very clearly lies in public. if he lied about classified documents order lied about the taxes or payments in new york, both coos indictable. we could learn about all that have relatively soon. i want to bring in lawyers who know all about this to former federal prosecutors, david kelly, former chief of the southern district of new york, my former boss, and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney as well. it's a tie in rank. you both have held that top post, but given the intrigue in new york, david, i will start with you. when you take it all together, i mentioned they have donald trump in common. sometimes i ask questions that are very, hopefully, very sophisticated. that one was very simple, david, for the simple point it's rare to see this many lawyers in this much heat. first, i want to know what you think about new york, and then any thoughts on washington. >> ari, there's a lot of lawyers involved, i think largely because a lot of lawyers don't want to hang a
mr. corcoran is now where, in the middle stage of the transition mr. cohen went through.ey both share a client who very clearly lies in public. if he lied about classified documents order lied about the taxes or payments in new york, both coos indictable. we could learn about all that have relatively soon. i want to bring in lawyers who know all about this to former federal prosecutors, david kelly, former chief of the southern district of new york, my former boss, and joyce vance, former u.s....
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mr. corcoran did not write down exactly what he had been told. >> charles, we have already seen some reportsindicating that notes, that corcoran's notes, were part of what would be made available to jack smith. but in tonight's reporting there is the phrase, audio recordings. that is always something that when you see in the possible mix of evidence released, starts to jump out. especially in anything involving donald trump. the possibilities of audio recordings possibly of donald trump possibly phone calls about this matter, or discussions with him that is what is possibly in the mix of what we are looking at tonight. that is correct. i think it goes to show, just how tenuous of a relationship that donald trump has had with the attorneys he has retained to represent him. i think they are clear what they're dancing with the snow not to be trusted in many respects many lawyers he has dealt with of made a point to ensure that their eyes are dotted and their t's are crossed but checking up and making sure they know they're recording all of those things are in order or at a time such as this. un
mr. corcoran did not write down exactly what he had been told. >> charles, we have already seen some reportsindicating that notes, that corcoran's notes, were part of what would be made available to jack smith. but in tonight's reporting there is the phrase, audio recordings. that is always something that when you see in the possible mix of evidence released, starts to jump out. especially in anything involving donald trump. the possibilities of audio recordings possibly of donald trump...
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mr. corcoran did not write down exactly what he had been told. >> yeah, and charles coleman, we have already seen some reports indicating that notes -- that corcoran's notes who are part of what would be made available to jack smith. by tonight's reporting there is the phrase, audio recordings. that is always something that when you see in the possible mix of evidence really jumps out, especially in anything involving donald trump. the possibilities of audio recordings, possibly even of donald trump, possibly phone calls about this matter, discussions with him -- that is what is possible in the mix of what we are looking at tonight. >> that is correct. i think it goes to show just how tenuous the relationship that donald trump has had with the attorneys that he has retained to represent him. i think that they are very clear that the partner that they are dancing with is not going to be -- in many respects, many of the lawyers that he has dealt with have made today point to make sure that their eyes are dotted and there -- for a time such as this. unfortunately, it does appear that now they h
mr. corcoran did not write down exactly what he had been told. >> yeah, and charles coleman, we have already seen some reports indicating that notes -- that corcoran's notes who are part of what would be made available to jack smith. by tonight's reporting there is the phrase, audio recordings. that is always something that when you see in the possible mix of evidence really jumps out, especially in anything involving donald trump. the possibilities of audio recordings, possibly even of...
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mr. corcoran, mr. cohen, mr. costello. >> make attorneys get attorneys, and you also are in the situation where attorneys may be the key witnesses in cases against donald trump where you are mr. cohen, mr. costello, may have mr. cipollone, a whole series of lawyers testifying to what happened in the same way related to my own life, don mcghan was so central to our report in terms of what he was asked to do by the former president, and refused to do, so i think you're going to see a lot of lawyers, sort of the tip of the iceberg, i think, in terms of what we're going to be covering in the next few months. >> jackie, zoom out for us, where does this go from here? >> another great question that's still a moving target. i mean, we know that the special counsel has been pressing to call in witnesses as quickly as possible. that mandate was given to prosecutors to get people in front of the grand jury and pick up the pace, and you can see that just in the publicly reported subpoenas that have been issued to a number of
mr. corcoran, mr. cohen, mr. costello. >> make attorneys get attorneys, and you also are in the situation where attorneys may be the key witnesses in cases against donald trump where you are mr. cohen, mr. costello, may have mr. cipollone, a whole series of lawyers testifying to what happened in the same way related to my own life, don mcghan was so central to our report in terms of what he was asked to do by the former president, and refused to do, so i think you're going to see a lot of...
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mr. corcoran. he issued the false certification that could end up being quite central to the mar-a-lago case where you have these lawyers getting into a whole lot of trouble testifying for donald trump. i'm not saying that mr. costello went to the grand jury in lied and we don't know exactly what he say. we don't know how consistent it is with other evidence. it does show a level of desperation over the recent views in the recent things that charles and i are pointing out. just think the idea that this is going to be a hail mary that would cause a grand jury to not find probable cause, while it is a legal possibility, it is extremely preventable. as something that could happen. >> so charles coleman, as we sit here tonight, it may be that we are seeing michael cohen go back into the grand jury tomorrow. the da's office might have wanted time to digest what happened today before doing that. or not. and we will always be leaving you until there is an indictment, if there is going to be one with the q
mr. corcoran. he issued the false certification that could end up being quite central to the mar-a-lago case where you have these lawyers getting into a whole lot of trouble testifying for donald trump. i'm not saying that mr. costello went to the grand jury in lied and we don't know exactly what he say. we don't know how consistent it is with other evidence. it does show a level of desperation over the recent views in the recent things that charles and i are pointing out. just think the idea...
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mr. corcoran's expected to appear before the grand jury as early as tomorrow. so jack smith with a one-two punch today. well everyone's buzzing about alvin bragg, the stormy daniels 's hush money, probe donald trump's legal headaches when it comes to the special counsel, they appear to be multiplying. joining me now are laura jarrett, nbc legal correspondent, and michael moore, former u.s. attorney for the middle district of georgia. thank you both for joining me. laura, we couldn't stop talking to you last time we needed more today. i want to hear your assessment of how involving mike pence will be to testify here. it sounds like he's privately or's attorneys are making paste of the concept, you know it's likely we'll get pulled into? this >> the hardest thing about this, this is he's gone public with a number of different interactions, and reflections that he's had. about really material events that happened both before and after the election. and yet the argument that his lawyers want to be making he should be amortized at least as to his role as private inc
mr. corcoran's expected to appear before the grand jury as early as tomorrow. so jack smith with a one-two punch today. well everyone's buzzing about alvin bragg, the stormy daniels 's hush money, probe donald trump's legal headaches when it comes to the special counsel, they appear to be multiplying. joining me now are laura jarrett, nbc legal correspondent, and michael moore, former u.s. attorney for the middle district of georgia. thank you both for joining me. laura, we couldn't stop...
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mr. corcoran is expected toÑi appear before the grand jury as early as tomorrow.eqq one-tw punch today. everyosu is buzzing about alvin bragg andçó the stormy daniels probe, donald trump's legalçó ■ to special counsel appear to be multiplying. laura jarrett andçó michael moo, former u.s. attorney for the middle district offá georgia ar both joining me. laura, we jusiçó couldn't stop laura, we jusiçó couldn't stop talking to you last ézeu we needed more today.Ñi i want+■ to hear yourÑi assessm of the -- how compelled mike pence will be or can be to testify here. it sounds like he's privately or his attorneys are making peace with the concept. do you thinkústrj likely he will get pulled,uz this. >> the hardest thing, he has gone with a numbert(ñr of diffe interactions and reflections that he has had about really material events that happened before and after ther and the yet the argument that appears his lawyers want to be z -- his role >> michael, i would assume if you're afx=i5■er vice president of the united states, you have handlers -- you havet( lawyezsvd one w
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mr. corcoran's gonna say, but the recording is that he is not going to be the fall guy. he is going to say i was misled. >> andrew, he will go into the grand jury room without the protection of the attorney client privilege, but he will still have the protection of the fifth amendment if he thinks he needs it. >> yes. if he thinks that he would give an answer that would tend to incriminate him, he could assert the fifth amendment. and there is some basis that would lead to the known facts for, at least things suspicious because if you remember the facts are that he drafted the false certification. his claim, i think, will be that he didn't know was false at the time. he believed what donald trump told him. but he didn't sign it. he got a different lawyer to sign it. and so one question i would ask is, why unguarded's green earth didn't you sign it? what was your concern? and then -- who signed it insisted on putting caveats into the certification, such as, based on the best of my knowledge. and so there's just some suspicion as to why they did all that if they were confi
mr. corcoran's gonna say, but the recording is that he is not going to be the fall guy. he is going to say i was misled. >> andrew, he will go into the grand jury room without the protection of the attorney client privilege, but he will still have the protection of the fifth amendment if he thinks he needs it. >> yes. if he thinks that he would give an answer that would tend to incriminate him, he could assert the fifth amendment. and there is some basis that would lead to the known...
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mr. corcoran and donald trump. do you know what they're looking for? >> i think they're looking to find out why they were misled and who told them to mislead them was it trump that was pushing it was it just utter dysfunction and confusion on trump's end be? what's the real answer here? and i think there's another hurdle that the government will have to get over here, which is even if they get to question corcoran, what kind of witness is he going to be? is he going to be someone that really sits there and answers their questions and provides lengthy, you know, statements about this is what donald trump was telling me to do behind closed doors as we knew this attestation was wrong and false was given to you if you're evan corcoran's lawyer, my guess is you're going to want to have some assurances and some sort of, you know, security that he doesn't have criminal liability himself in this whole thing so is the government going to be able to not only question him but can they put leverage on him to make him really answer the question you can go yes or no
mr. corcoran and donald trump. do you know what they're looking for? >> i think they're looking to find out why they were misled and who told them to mislead them was it trump that was pushing it was it just utter dysfunction and confusion on trump's end be? what's the real answer here? and i think there's another hurdle that the government will have to get over here, which is even if they get to question corcoran, what kind of witness is he going to be? is he going to be someone that...
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mr. corcoran has to testify about or provide records about, and others he may not have to testify about. think we could see him or expect to see him back at the grand jury by the end of the week this week. unless, of course, there's some more court action. the president could try for the full bench of the d. c. circuit, that's very unlikely to receive. and he could make another run to the supreme court, which has not been very kind to him on these types of issues thus far. so, he has not run out of legal options here if he wants to continue to press this. >> joyce, how much of a game-changer is this ruling for jack smith investigation? correct me if i'm wrong, but a judge agreed with the special counsel's team that it's more likely not than that donald trump committed a crime to his attorney. >> well, this could be ball game for the special counsel, not necessarily because that ruling, but because of the evidence that the information that this could give them access to. >> yes. >> in essence, the ruling by judge howell means that the special counsel's office will now be privy to conversa
mr. corcoran has to testify about or provide records about, and others he may not have to testify about. think we could see him or expect to see him back at the grand jury by the end of the week this week. unless, of course, there's some more court action. the president could try for the full bench of the d. c. circuit, that's very unlikely to receive. and he could make another run to the supreme court, which has not been very kind to him on these types of issues thus far. so, he has not run...
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mr. corcoran's communications with donald trump may have been in furtherance of a crime or fraud. happened with his lawyer john east man when his issue was litigated in a california federal court so it's a sign of trump's peerl saying up is down and black is white only signals the amount of trouble that mr. presume and his lawyers may be in. >> kaitlyn cnn has learned this judge narrowed the scope of what federal prosecutors could ask corcoran. do you have any sense what might be off limits? >> well wolf in was one of those issue where we can't see what was argued in court or what the judge ruled. it was all under seal at that time so we're learning through our sources what happened here but we understand that judge howell may have far hold what he asked. perhaps he can ask will be specific conversations the justice departments may know about at this time. that still is a big get for special counsel jack smith's investigators and this grand jury. we learned the trump team at the time and doesn't have access to the full opinion. it's under seal and for the public as well. >> while
mr. corcoran's communications with donald trump may have been in furtherance of a crime or fraud. happened with his lawyer john east man when his issue was litigated in a california federal court so it's a sign of trump's peerl saying up is down and black is white only signals the amount of trouble that mr. presume and his lawyers may be in. >> kaitlyn cnn has learned this judge narrowed the scope of what federal prosecutors could ask corcoran. do you have any sense what might be off...
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mr. corcoran to misstate to prosecutors where the documents were being held at mar-a-lago.e. hwó understands that there is a crime called obstruction of justice. the events that we'rejf seeing todayñr suggest that it's entiry possible the former president was nott( truthful with his lawyers and now prosecutors are trying to get the details to determine whether they can brinr charges in that qregard. >> joyce, also according to "th■ times," another trump attorney has also been ordered toçó testify, a woman by the name of mi testimony be significant?fái] >> we don't know a lot abouti] r }ájját(uron to thee1 classified so it looks at this point as thougha5■ prosecutors ar,% >> there is a patte)n that may be developing. why one of the radars used toi] detect incoming threats wasqÑy town. >>> a ground breaking ruling, what the parents of school shooter will say when they."■ sd trail for5a■ involuntary manslaughter. >>> and ne■ signs of russian aggression in the arctic, the evid(v you're watching ht■"chris jansi reports" only on msnbc. nutes, while other allergy sprays take hours
mr. corcoran to misstate to prosecutors where the documents were being held at mar-a-lago.e. hwó understands that there is a crime called obstruction of justice. the events that we'rejf seeing todayñr suggest that it's entiry possible the former president was nott( truthful with his lawyers and now prosecutors are trying to get the details to determine whether they can brinr charges in that qregard. >> joyce, also according to "th■ times," another trump attorney has also...
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mr. corcoran has given to court to review, that there may be something in there that has caused them to be to go so quickly. >> phil, while all this is leaning against the president, at least in that case, as garrett mentioned, in the last hour, in terms of the new york case, former president posted an attack on everyone from alvin bragg to jack smith. he is fund-raising, raising more than $1 million last weekend off of the national focus on his legal issues portraying himself as a victim. >> yeah. this is intentional by the former president and his political team. they have been taking advantage of this waiting game all week for the potential indictment out of new york to portray trump as a victim and use this almost as a weapon to try to rally his supporters more firmly in his camp. this is the beginning, of course, of the 2024 republican presidential fight. ron desantis, the governor of florida, is looking very strong. he is not an announced candidate, but he has begun attacking trump. trump is using this to keep those supporters close, to give them something to rally around, to portray
mr. corcoran has given to court to review, that there may be something in there that has caused them to be to go so quickly. >> phil, while all this is leaning against the president, at least in that case, as garrett mentioned, in the last hour, in terms of the new york case, former president posted an attack on everyone from alvin bragg to jack smith. he is fund-raising, raising more than $1 million last weekend off of the national focus on his legal issues portraying himself as a...
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mr. corcoran's notes, according to these reports, of what happened and what mr. trump told him. >> andrea, it could be. there's an interesting parallel emerging. in new york, one of donald trump's former lawyers is prepared to testify against him and has already given grand jury testimony incriminating donald trump. we move down to washington, d.c., and it looks like another one of donald trump's lawyers is on the verge of being ordered to give testimony that it looks like would incriminate donald trump. that's sort of where the parallels end. michael cohen has some real credibility challenges, not surprisingly when the prosecutors use somebody who is complicit in the very crime about which he is testifying. that is stock and trade for prosecutors, using those kind of cooperating or cooperator-esque witnesses. in washington, you have corcoran who may have to testify his client misled him. that constitutes potentially obstructing justice and a false statement to government. that would be a very strong criminal charge against donald trump potentially. >> more serio
mr. corcoran's notes, according to these reports, of what happened and what mr. trump told him. >> andrea, it could be. there's an interesting parallel emerging. in new york, one of donald trump's former lawyers is prepared to testify against him and has already given grand jury testimony incriminating donald trump. we move down to washington, d.c., and it looks like another one of donald trump's lawyers is on the verge of being ordered to give testimony that it looks like would...
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it sounds like a strong argument and, you know,in that event mr corcoran will have to testify, will have to provide, you know, evidence and testimony that could indeed incriminate his client it may very well be that that gets immediately appealed and runs up and down the circuit, that's certainly the m.o. in trump world. so it may be that the testimony does not come very quickly, but it will come. >> do you read anything, danya, into the crime fraud exception that jack smith is trying to go at trump lawyers on crime fraud? does that seem particularly ambitious to you or does that seem par for the course in a situation like this? >> that's also an m.o. in this case we have seen that already, a district court in california has already found that the crime fraud exception applies with respect to a different lawyer of trump's. >> john eastman. >> correct so any number of lawyers are in hot water themselves in having represented trump and have had phones seized and have had grand jury subpoenas issued. so this is, as you say, par for the course. >> barb, i have to ask you about what is happen
it sounds like a strong argument and, you know,in that event mr corcoran will have to testify, will have to provide, you know, evidence and testimony that could indeed incriminate his client it may very well be that that gets immediately appealed and runs up and down the circuit, that's certainly the m.o. in trump world. so it may be that the testimony does not come very quickly, but it will come. >> do you read anything, danya, into the crime fraud exception that jack smith is trying to...
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mr. corcoran's legal work may have been use in the commission of a crime we'll get our veteran federa prosecutor's opinion about that, in just a moment abc news reported yesterday th jack smith's efforts to compel corcoran to testify reportedly centered around a call between him and trump that took plac on june 24th, 2022, the same day that trump was served with a subpoena for the surveillanc footage from mar-a-lago. and according to abc news, smith also wants corcoran to quote, answer question regarding his efforts to locat potentially classified documents at trump's mar-a-lag resort following a subpoen sent by the government for any documents that remained in trump's possession, as well as corcoran's role in drafting document signed on june 3rd by another trump a thorny attorney, christina bobb, asserting that to the best of her knowledge o diligent search of the premise have been conducted in that al documents in response to the subpoena had been handed over. according to a separate report jack smith has subpoenae dozens of trump staff in the documents case at least two dozen people from mar-a-
mr. corcoran's legal work may have been use in the commission of a crime we'll get our veteran federa prosecutor's opinion about that, in just a moment abc news reported yesterday th jack smith's efforts to compel corcoran to testify reportedly centered around a call between him and trump that took plac on june 24th, 2022, the same day that trump was served with a subpoena for the surveillanc footage from mar-a-lago. and according to abc news, smith also wants corcoran to quote, answer question...
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mr. corcoran finds himself before a grand jury. perhaps testifying about those facts.of the information that the reports indicate that may be put forward leads to an audio recording. i never heard of a criminal defense attorney having that audio recording. it will be interesting to see who it is. the government wants to hear that. >> quick question. do you know the law in florida? i know every state is different. whether you have to have both parties' consent for a recording. >> i do not know. we don't know where it is this took place or whether or not it was across interstate lines as well. >> thank you very much. good point. that's why you are the attorney and i'm not. as always, so helpful. to all of you, we appreciate your help on this breaking news today. >>> on patrol. our nbc news exclusive. watch this. tom costello in the north atlantic with nato guarding against a rising threat of russia. you won't believe what happened while they were out there. this is "andrea mitchell reports." you are watching msnbc. a little easier. (moo) mabel says for you, it's more lik
mr. corcoran finds himself before a grand jury. perhaps testifying about those facts.of the information that the reports indicate that may be put forward leads to an audio recording. i never heard of a criminal defense attorney having that audio recording. it will be interesting to see who it is. the government wants to hear that. >> quick question. do you know the law in florida? i know every state is different. whether you have to have both parties' consent for a recording. >> i...
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mr. corcoran about whether he knew there were additional documents, whether he was told there were no additional documents, and whatever the grand jury can take away from that. so what you're seeing in all of this is the people who are closest to mr. -- had believed he had confidential or private conversations, they have some of the keys to the answers to these questions. >> and bob, we keep talking about how angry trump is to be an under investigation for all these alleged crimes. but he could he be committing any new crimes with the social media post this week? if you are prosecutor looking at trump would you be taking screen grabs of all these posts to use later? >> absolutely. he has said things that i would start to right still casting terrorism, which is through storing anger out there, no particular directive, no orders, but enough that somebody is likely to take the bag. like a boast with a post with him holding a baseball bat next to alvin bragg is clearly a suggestion to somebody to harm, physically, alvin bragg. in light of personal protections, i think he has plausible deniability is
mr. corcoran about whether he knew there were additional documents, whether he was told there were no additional documents, and whatever the grand jury can take away from that. so what you're seeing in all of this is the people who are closest to mr. -- had believed he had confidential or private conversations, they have some of the keys to the answers to these questions. >> and bob, we keep talking about how angry trump is to be an under investigation for all these alleged crimes. but he...
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mr. corcoran is going to say, "it wasn't me. i wrote this, but i was told what to put in there by my client," meaning donald trump. you're absolutely right. this is a way of getting that direct evidence. how did that certification come about? yes, it is very unusual for the prosecutors to seek this kind of order from the court. it is not something that has never happened. it happened during the special counsel mueller investigation with the exact same judge, but it is unusual. in order to make this ruling, the judge has to find that it is likely that donald trump committed a crime. it's not necessary that the lawyer did, but at least the client did. the standard is likely. that's exactly what she wrote in the manafort case that i handled. >> right. >> so this is a huge deal. in terms of the case, this really could be the key evidence of obstruction. it also differentiates this case from what we know about the pence case and the biden case. there, there's absolutely no circumstance where we're thinking there is obstruction and fa
mr. corcoran is going to say, "it wasn't me. i wrote this, but i was told what to put in there by my client," meaning donald trump. you're absolutely right. this is a way of getting that direct evidence. how did that certification come about? yes, it is very unusual for the prosecutors to seek this kind of order from the court. it is not something that has never happened. it happened during the special counsel mueller investigation with the exact same judge, but it is unusual. in...
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mr. corcoran, they have seemed to breach the attorney/client privilege to get him to testify what do youhe significance of that is when it comes to the jack smith investigation? >> it's important. first of all, there are a couple of things that he could be a witness to one is a phone call that he had with trump, and the other is instructions he gave to christina bobb to sign an affidavit that said there had been a diligent search and that all of the documents had been turned over. and she actually cleverly added some language to that, saying based on information that i have been given, because she didn't do the search, corcoran did the search so he could be responsible for a deliberate falsification of information, and that could get him into criminal trouble himself. not just in helping his client and he would be the second lawyer on the trump team who has had this happen. eastman had the same thing, where the judge concluded that he and trump had probably more likely than not committed a crime together that's one of the only ways that you can force a lawyer to give up the confidential
mr. corcoran, they have seemed to breach the attorney/client privilege to get him to testify what do youhe significance of that is when it comes to the jack smith investigation? >> it's important. first of all, there are a couple of things that he could be a witness to one is a phone call that he had with trump, and the other is instructions he gave to christina bobb to sign an affidavit that said there had been a diligent search and that all of the documents had been turned over. and she...
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mr. corcoran is going to hav to testify before the specia counsel. now, lawyers typically do no have to do things like that, because of attorney client privilege. the only time a judge can forc a lawyer to testify as whe there's reason to believe that the lawyer aided their clien in committing a crime. it's called the crime frau exception. and if that sounds familiar, i is because that is also wha happened to trump lawyer joh eastman, who had to turn over trove of privileged emails after a judge found that he an trump more than likely committed crimes in thei scheme to overturn the election so now, we have yet anothe finding by a federal judge tha another trump lawyer may hav done too much crime-ing an will now have to get out of hi lawyer chair and sit-down in the witness chair and star answering questions. and evan corcoran is now not the only trump lawyer facing new questions about hi behavior joe tacopina is -- trump's attorney and the manhattan da hush mone investigation into - trump's payouts too adult film star stormy daniels. at least for now
mr. corcoran is going to hav to testify before the specia counsel. now, lawyers typically do no have to do things like that, because of attorney client privilege. the only time a judge can forc a lawyer to testify as whe there's reason to believe that the lawyer aided their clien in committing a crime. it's called the crime frau exception. and if that sounds familiar, i is because that is also wha happened to trump lawyer joh eastman, who had to turn over trove of privileged emails after a...
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mr. corcoran can now be put in the grand jury an specifically asked who gave yo the information that you put i that certification that al documents were returned. if this testimony is that that came from donald trump, that i incredibly strong evidence o obstruction of justice i connection with the mar-a-lago case and then one final point is, that is a huge differentiato aider from everything that w know with respect to classifie documents that donald trump had, versus the documents that were found with the current president or mr. pens th former vice president. in other, words the obstructio is something that we haven't seen any indication that exist in any those other cases >> andrew weissmann, thank you for that i am going to bring in suzanne craig. pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter for the new york times thank you so much. for joining our breaking new coverage this morning. you've covered the ins and out of trump's finances more tha anybody. i want to pick up on something that you're times colleagu charlie savage said a minute ago in terms of the charge that trump could fa
mr. corcoran can now be put in the grand jury an specifically asked who gave yo the information that you put i that certification that al documents were returned. if this testimony is that that came from donald trump, that i incredibly strong evidence o obstruction of justice i connection with the mar-a-lago case and then one final point is, that is a huge differentiato aider from everything that w know with respect to classifie documents that donald trump had, versus the documents that were...
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mr. corcoran and the former president and say, look, where was he actually providing genuine legal advice they have been talking about or providing information relevant to a criminal investigation? you have to go statement by statement. there is no baflanket way to answer it but merely being an attorney won't always get you out of coming in to testify. >> a good point. one last thing, eliot. the trump aid margo martin appeared before a grand jury yesterday and is a trump communications aide from the white house who significantly continued with him as he went over to mar-a-lago. what did we learn about what she might have been testifying to? >> it is hard to know but one thing is for certain. conversations she has with the former president after her time in the white house are going to be subject to a lot less protection than the one she would have had with the president when he was president. we've talked about the idea of executive privilege. sometimes the president is entitled to have statements and conversations with his staff protected under the law. that is not the case here. as some
mr. corcoran and the former president and say, look, where was he actually providing genuine legal advice they have been talking about or providing information relevant to a criminal investigation? you have to go statement by statement. there is no baflanket way to answer it but merely being an attorney won't always get you out of coming in to testify. >> a good point. one last thing, eliot. the trump aid margo martin appeared before a grand jury yesterday and is a trump communications...
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that means that the evidence that mr corcoran will will provide his conversations with trump, his notes and other written materials can serve as possible evidence that donald trump was engaged in crimes with these classified documents, for example, that trump may have been not honest with his own lawyers may have been concealing these it considerably worsens what was already probably trump's most severe federal legal peril. of course, he's facing problems on other fronts as well is elliot williams. this decision came very quickly. less than a day after trump tried to put corcoran's testimony on hold . does that signal to you a level of urgency in the special counsel's investigation? absolutely wolf, and it's also signals that that courts are capable of moving very, very quickly. it's not just that that this appeals court ruled overnight it's that the district court the trial court, down below resolve the matter. and i guess in just about a day look, you know, usually when you get what's called briefing schedules, too, for parties to come in and talk to the court, you're talking weeks or
that means that the evidence that mr corcoran will will provide his conversations with trump, his notes and other written materials can serve as possible evidence that donald trump was engaged in crimes with these classified documents, for example, that trump may have been not honest with his own lawyers may have been concealing these it considerably worsens what was already probably trump's most severe federal legal peril. of course, he's facing problems on other fronts as well is elliot...
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it's obviously tough to oversee how high the stakes are likely to be it mr corcoran's appearance tomorrow. do we know how this is going to play out tomorrow at all? anderson we know that he's going to have to go in and he's going to have to answer questions that he was not willing to answer before the things that his client, donald trump wanted him not to share with the grand jury and things that he himself was did not feel he was able to share because they were part of his work as an attorney. now even corcoran he's not just any attorney working for donald trump. he was essentially the primary defense attorney. responding to all of the parts of the mara lago investigation, as the criminal prosecutors have been trying to figure out why they couldn't get back or if they had even gotten back over the classified documents that were at mara lago. so if you look at that timeline, the timeline of all of the things he was part of that is what we know now through reporting from my colleague, sara murray tonight what he's going to be asked about tomorrow, so he's going to be asked about the may su
it's obviously tough to oversee how high the stakes are likely to be it mr corcoran's appearance tomorrow. do we know how this is going to play out tomorrow at all? anderson we know that he's going to have to go in and he's going to have to answer questions that he was not willing to answer before the things that his client, donald trump wanted him not to share with the grand jury and things that he himself was did not feel he was able to share because they were part of his work as an attorney....
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manhattan and talking to the prosecutors 20 times, knowing much, much more about donald trump than mr corcoran does. i think there's peril on both friends. yes well, listen, i think it's great to have the discussion where you have differing views on these things. here, renato. thank you so much for being with us, norm . we appreciate your time as well. thank you. cute so now to talk about the political implications, and all of this, we have scott jennings, former special assistant to president george w. bush. we have ron brownstein, senior editor for the atlantic. okay so ron when asked if an indictment in the hush money case could help trump politically. west virginia moderate senator joe manchin said. it just emboldens him. he's the type of person that sometimes it's sometimes emboldened by more outrageous things. there's many reasons not to be for him, and i think that when the court system is perceived to be be used for something different. it could have a completely reverse effect . what do you think about that? and what do you think about politically what this does for trump? well, i thi
manhattan and talking to the prosecutors 20 times, knowing much, much more about donald trump than mr corcoran does. i think there's peril on both friends. yes well, listen, i think it's great to have the discussion where you have differing views on these things. here, renato. thank you so much for being with us, norm . we appreciate your time as well. thank you. cute so now to talk about the political implications, and all of this, we have scott jennings, former special assistant to president...
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that this individual really knows everything from a to z when you're talking about talking about mr corcoran, he really was advising donald trump. right from the beginning when the archives was asking for the documents that were taken by donald trump from the white house, so he knows exactly what happened. he was involved in dealing with the archives. he was involved in handing over certain documents to the archives afterwards that were not complete. he was involved when the subpoena came for additional documents. he oversaw the lawyers who actually did the search, which donald trump, or at least one of the lawyers claimed it was complete and accurate and was done thoroughly . and is it possible that that he thought it was done thoroughly and was completely absolutely he could be an unwitting dupe in this, but what he said with donald trump said to him. is extremely relevant because the department of justice has already gathered evidence from various people who have essentially given the department the probable cause that they had to get the search warrant in the first instance, so he could
that this individual really knows everything from a to z when you're talking about talking about mr corcoran, he really was advising donald trump. right from the beginning when the archives was asking for the documents that were taken by donald trump from the white house, so he knows exactly what happened. he was involved in dealing with the archives. he was involved in handing over certain documents to the archives afterwards that were not complete. he was involved when the subpoena came for...
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mr corcoran testified before but refused to answer certain questions, saying, i have a privilege and lawyers do have a privilege with their client, whether you like or dislike their client. it's an important underpinning of the american legal system. i just want to read you a little bit from the new york times reporting. this goes back to october of 2022. the lawyer, m. evan corcoran, met miss bob, another attorney at the president's residence in private club in florida. asked her to sign a statement for the department that the trump legal team had conducted a diligent search of mara lago and found only a few files that had not been returned to the government. it turns out, there were a lot of files still at mara lago. so the point the special prosecutor trying to make here is that donald trump either lied to his attorneys, and then they misrepresented. they thought they were telling the truth. but they filed the document that was simply not true. or got the lawyers involved in this in this conspiracy with him, right? right. and there are other attorneys who i blame might have even b
mr corcoran testified before but refused to answer certain questions, saying, i have a privilege and lawyers do have a privilege with their client, whether you like or dislike their client. it's an important underpinning of the american legal system. i just want to read you a little bit from the new york times reporting. this goes back to october of 2022. the lawyer, m. evan corcoran, met miss bob, another attorney at the president's residence in private club in florida. asked her to sign a...
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mr. corcoran. ultimately it may go to boris epstein, maybe the former president, but that hot potato is going to get passed up the chain until somebody owns it. the presumably as we did with manafort, it was manafort and rick gates who told the lawyer what to say that was false and presumably that is what jack smith is looking to see whether it was the former president who did that. obviously we can all look at this and say of course it was him. it doesn't fly in the court of law, you need the witness to say that, and jack smith may be saying that as we speak. >> so, frank, jackie started this or framed it around what her reporting reflects about pace, but she added this caveat that jack smith, and i'm sure andrew agrees with her assessment, doesn't give a bleep about the politics or the political calendar. i want to put it around a different beating -- ticking clock, and that is the national security concerns that were really in focus when the mar-a-lago case first burst into public view and it wa
mr. corcoran. ultimately it may go to boris epstein, maybe the former president, but that hot potato is going to get passed up the chain until somebody owns it. the presumably as we did with manafort, it was manafort and rick gates who told the lawyer what to say that was false and presumably that is what jack smith is looking to see whether it was the former president who did that. obviously we can all look at this and say of course it was him. it doesn't fly in the court of law, you need the...
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when they have no case whatsoever as we mentioned at the top, the panel ruling that mr trump's attorney, evan corcoran, has to provide additional testimony and information. the classified documents probe seen sara murray joins us now with more so talk more about exactly what the court ruled today. well, anderson. what does appeals court said, is that evan corcoran, donald trump's attorney is going to have to go back before the grand jury. he's going to have to provide additional testimony that's slated currently for friday, and he's also going to have to hand over documents to prosecutors and we're learning those documents include things like handwritten notes as well as transcriptions of audio recordings, and this comes after a lower court judge decided that prosecutors presented enough evidence before her to show that donald trump may have committed a crime, and he may have used his attorney to do that. and because of that, that sort of pierces the attorney client privilege. it means that no longer stands organist answer more questions, and the appeals court upheld that decision. trump spokesperson,
when they have no case whatsoever as we mentioned at the top, the panel ruling that mr trump's attorney, evan corcoran, has to provide additional testimony and information. the classified documents probe seen sara murray joins us now with more so talk more about exactly what the court ruled today. well, anderson. what does appeals court said, is that evan corcoran, donald trump's attorney is going to have to go back before the grand jury. he's going to have to provide additional testimony...
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corcoran was also compelled to hand over personal notes related to the investigation. mr trump has denied any wrongdoing in both of these cases in new york, mother of era ktvu fox two news no noon, city leaders are discussing the future of san francisco's japantown task force presented a report to the city supervisors detailing a three year strategy to keep the cultural district alive and thriving. leaders of the task force say they want to preserve and develop one of three only three remaining japan towns in the us this is over four years of intense work. there was a near final draft in 2019. but then the pandemic happened. it's been reformatted five times. it represents a huge community effort to determine our own future. goals include protecting local businesses providing tenant protections, working with japan trade groups and forming a japantown community council continues on interstate 5 80 through the altamont pass. we'll take a look at the progress so far, and the work still ahead. that may impact your commute. plus more tech layoffs here in the bay area, the lates
corcoran was also compelled to hand over personal notes related to the investigation. mr trump has denied any wrongdoing in both of these cases in new york, mother of era ktvu fox two news no noon, city leaders are discussing the future of san francisco's japantown task force presented a report to the city supervisors detailing a three year strategy to keep the cultural district alive and thriving. leaders of the task force say they want to preserve and develop one of three only three remaining...
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corcoran was also compelled to hand over personal notes related to the investigation. mrmp has denied any wrongdoing and both of these cases in new york mother of era ktvu, fox two news still in the mornings onto the nine even days after the big storm, residents and drivers are still being affected the major impact on one east bay freeway and this event will last through the summer, most likely to around september. parts of the central valley or so flooded. they are unrecognizable will take you to one levy work, broken kings county and big stretches of land underwater. lowe's knows it's not just what we've got, it's who we've got. that's why we've got nearly 300,000 associates that got your back. sure lowe's knows the tools, materials and tech to tackle it all. but lowe's knows you also need the how to crew. and the partners pro's count on. lowe's knows no matter what you're taking on, it's always easier when you got the right people, the right products, all at the right place. you got this. and we got you. with fish oil, lean proteins and whole grains helps support their
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corcoran is the latest in a long line of trump lawyers who have found themselves now front and center in a criminal investigation. tom foreman is outfront. mr president, with a manhattan grand jury deciding whether to indict the former president, one of donald trump's former attorneys, is under heavy fire for his testimony. my goal is to ensure that truth comes out, michael cohen says trump authorized a hush money payment to adult film actress stormy daniels to hide an alleged affair. but attorney robert costello trump ally who once advised cohen went to the grand jury and says no way okay? cohen alone was behind the payment and he's bitter. he wound up in jail for it, and now he's on the revenge tour. i understand it, but i don't condone it. saga is just the latest example of trump lawyers who are normally behind the scenes showing up front and center. in case after case michael cohen has the credibility of a pipe cleaner. trump's attorney in the hush money case, joe tacopina, for instance, now, loudly defending the former president a few years ago was just as publicly hearing trump's defense down in the matter of those classified document
corcoran is the latest in a long line of trump lawyers who have found themselves now front and center in a criminal investigation. tom foreman is outfront. mr president, with a manhattan grand jury deciding whether to indict the former president, one of donald trump's former attorneys, is under heavy fire for his testimony. my goal is to ensure that truth comes out, michael cohen says trump authorized a hush money payment to adult film actress stormy daniels to hide an alleged affair. but...
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mr. pena. , remember last wednesday, a federal appeals court took the rare step of piercing attorney-client privilege, upholding a lower court decision qatari that trump lawyer evan corcoran must testify as part of smiths separate investigation, into the ex presidents mishandling of classified documents. and that moved fast, because cork and then subsequently spoke with investigators, for more than three hours last friday. mike pence, finds himself in a similar position now. and the position for anyone around donald trump facing those subpoena. now, as i said many times on the show, donald trump's efforts to subvert american democracy. to end the constitutional republic as we know it, culminated in the insurrection of january six, was the most malevolent act in the presidency, there is one thing for which he should be held to account it is that, and that mike pence had a front row seat to nearly all of it. >> that's why they're so doggedly -- these lawsuits were thrown out of, court his efforts to pressure state legislatures. become increasingly desperate. that's why, much like corcoran, he's such an important in such, cases and crucial moments in that period, pence is th
mr. pena. , remember last wednesday, a federal appeals court took the rare step of piercing attorney-client privilege, upholding a lower court decision qatari that trump lawyer evan corcoran must testify as part of smiths separate investigation, into the ex presidents mishandling of classified documents. and that moved fast, because cork and then subsequently spoke with investigators, for more than three hours last friday. mike pence, finds himself in a similar position now. and the position...