mr. crosby, and we were chatting on, and i said, mr. crosby, where did the white house operators find you, and he said, i'm on a sailboat off tahiti, so they were wonderful, but we had -- the entertainment, when we were first in the white house, was different than the entertainment after the vietnam war heated up, because we had a lot of -- we had a lot of dance, and at one point, a couple of newspaper people came to me and said, i didn't realize that the president was such a big fan of ballet. well, the thing, the ballet dancers, they are too busy running their own -- keeping their bodies in shape, they don't have time to be out protesting. so we had -- we had the american ballet theater, we had the joffrey ballet, we just became big fans of ballet. >> and i read somewhere, you really wished you could have done a square dance, but you felt you couldn't because of the cultural condescension in texas. >> i couldn't do a barbecue either. we did do a barbecue at the tail end. it was a staff party, because i told the president, i said, all t