mr. crump, it is good to have you with us this hour. so first, let's talk about the case in general and the reaction from the victims. >> well, the women, these survivors are truly happy that he won't be allowed to harmony other vulnerable members of our society or any other woman. and what they said, george, in that courtroom today was so powerful when they read those statements that he would never know how they hurt -- how they were hurt and how they'll never get over the scars that he place on them. they're dealing with this day to day, and they were already in not the best situations in life. and he preyed on them and made their lives that more complicated. >> mr. crump, one question that has been raised given that holtzclaw's defense has indicated that they will appeal. what are you hearing from these survivors about that? >> welsh obviously, it's a lot of things and a local process they do not understand, george. but one thing became abundantly clear, that based on how the jury, and it wa

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