paul sing lawyer when he told mr. cuomo that he was acting under your suggestions or orders to tell them that the board would be fired if they didn't comply? >> i believe he's modified that statement. i did not tell him -- i did not tell mr. paulson -- >> what did you tell him? >> i didn't tell him anything like that. >> using you didn't tell him anything like that. what did you tell him? >> mr. paulson and i had conversations given our common concerns about the financial system. all i can say is i sure i never told him to convey such a message to ken lewis. >> mr. paulson says in a letter from new york attorney general andrew cuomo to congress hear reports paulson told him paulson made the threat at the request of bernanke. that isn't correct? >> nope. >> did you say t.a.r.p. said he modified the state. how did he modify? we don't have any information. >> he issued a statement to the fact he did not receive the information that he made inferences but as far as i know he modified a statement on that particular issue. >> how