mr. cusack, a tough perception to fight, is it not? >> it is and be president of the united states. can't be secretive here is a novel idea bill, when if she released personal emails? it would humanize her to see the emails about chelsea's. >> she is not going to do it. >> no she is not going to do it what she should say to the fbi the justice department. come, in take a look at my server, all right, mr. bevin please keep my private emails private. i think they would agree to do that in bright. -- writing. if there is some mistake i made by classifying private email that really is public business then you can release it don't you think that's a logical thing to do mr. bevin? it might be logical thing but that's not the clinton's mo. >> why not? you are advising her, mr. bevin. you make your living in the political arena. you are advising her. what's wrong with that? >> it might be good political advice. we don't know what's on that server, bill. >> the only reason wouldn't take it there is something there she doesn't want anybody to see. right? it's the only possible reason. >> that