mr. cutler also points out, mr. meadows referenced this as well, according to the memo, the overall head of implementation inside hhs was jean lambeau. those are the two people we need. would you agree, mr. park? they need to come here and tell us what took place, why these decisions were made, why it was done the way it was done, these are the key people? this is the lady, the president said, no, that's who i want in charge. even though peter or zack, zeke emanuel, and the president said no, i want nancy ann deparl in charge. don't you think she should come in front of this committee, mr. park? >> respectively, i can't really speak to that, sir. >> we're probably going to have to do the same thing for her as we did for you. we'll have to subpoena her. last week the chairman and i sent a letter to the white house asking that simple question. the person hand picked by the president to run this operation, would she come before this committee to talk about the disaster this rollout has been. and the response we got bac

mr. cutler said, we need to put someone from the private sector in charge, someone who has the experience and expertise, and the president said no, he only made up his mind, nancy is that person. that is the person we need. , mr.utler also points out meadows has referenced this as well. according to the memo, the overall head of imitation was jean lambro. those are the cutest people we need. you -- would you agree they need to come here and tell us what took place and why it was done the way it was done? this is the lady, the president said, that is who i want in charge, even though larry summers, david cutler, said put someone else in charge. the president said he wants nancy in charge. you not think he should come in front of this committee? thatcannot really speak to . >> we will probably have to do the same thing for her that we did to you -- for you. yesterday, last week, the chairman and i sent a letter to the white house -- the white house asking that question. the person handpicked by the president, would she come in front of this committee and testify about this disaster the roll

mr. cutler because are prices that people shouldn't pay. >> i talked to a couple of hedge funds this morning who are all in. people are calling up lloyd blankfein and saying let's call in the favors. put me in for 10%. 28%, 28%. >> $20 billion, you're already talking 16, 17 times revenue. >> carl was talking to me -- >> some of the forecasts coming out of the presentations, on "usa today," citing some investors, $620 million in revenue this year, 40 million ebidta, next year 980 million revenue, 80 million ebidta. >> i still think there's a level you should pay. i think people are excited, too excited. >> everything goes right. if everything goes right, it will be worth $25 billion, $30 billion a year from now. i don't think you pay $30 billion for 30 billion. >> you have engagement seems to have stalled, u.s. growth of users is not that impressive. >> there's why i'm concerned. >> 75% of the business is international. also they figured out mobile. they don't have to worry about that. think about facebook when we were talking about that. they increased the size, increased the price, lowered

mr. cutler last night. >> it was foreseen that there would be a lot of transition from policies that wereter policies through the exchanges, but that would be because individuals saw and wanted to do that rather than because they were being pushed and couldn't see what was in front of them. >> wow. so he thought everything would be out there. people would see the cheaper and they would jump rather than be pushed. they've been thrown overboard and without the ability to go back on and shop for the exchanges which 60% of the time have one company to shop against. he also said in 2010, he told former security secretary larry summers hey, you know what? he's no longer there as well. he says he warned that the rollout failing as far back as 2010. he saw this failing, told larry summers, i don't know what summers did, but he did quit soon after. >> he said the government doesn't have the people or the process to do it effectively. fast forward to today. he was really right. >> yeah. therefore, we have the numbers that the "wall street journal" has released. people don't find it better and aren'