newspapers to argue against any form of more coherent regulation than you have today, and i think that mr. dayco has said he has a perfectly honorable view, but i don't share, about what he thinks will happen if there is a marked regulation. i hope and believe that even he recognizes that the landscape has changed completely even in what the public will tolerate. >> he certainly said that last september when he at the ended the seminar. >> yes. >> on other matters on page 10, you don't favor an absolute requirement, but you favor a presumption and you indicate why, and the third issue, the makeup and the underpinning of the reconstituted blame regulator that you would like to be called the press commission, and i'm sure that the label does not matter. and first of all, it is, it's normative force, and are you in visiting here a statutory underpinning and if so, why? >> yes, aim. and one discrete statutory underpinning is that if you don't, it continues to be voluntary, and there is no way that i can perceive by which you can and then bring in those newspaper groups that don't want anything to do