>> yes, sir. >> mr. de la rionda said, "okay, what could you hear?" in a said "like a little get off" some stuff. >> yes, sir. >> that's the first time you said that to anybody, correct? >> yes, sir. >> and mr. de la rionda said, "you could tell who was saying that?" >> yes, sir. >> and you said, "i couldn't hear it was trayvon." "i couldn't know it was trayvon, something like that." >> objection. improper. >> if you have what she said you need to read that. >> i have to play it. i can't -- the transcript isn't accurate enough because of the way it was said. we can mark that and maybe come back and play it. >> can i read it, sir? can i read it? i'll tell you what i said. >> you can read my notes on that. you can disregard what i said. >> do you want mine? >> i have mine, i think. >> she's asked for the transcript so she can tell you what she said. i think we should try that first. >> okay. >> i have a multiple page transcript. leapt me find it. >>> good morning again. this is thomas roberts in new york. we're watching day two the continue testimony of

was that mr. de la rionda asked you -- >> may i see it, sir? >> may i see it, sir? >> yes. but let me set the stage, if i might. mr. de la rionda said, "but did he ever say the guy got out of the car?" >> i don't remember, sir. >> you don't remember that mr. -- >> what you talking about? >> here's what i'm talking about. that mr. de la rionda asked you, did he ever say the guy got out of the car? and your response to him was, you want that, too? you remember that? >> i don't remember, sir. >> she asked you to show her, so if you'll please give her a copy. >>> i want to bring in kyle hightower, reporter for the associated press, who's in sanford covering the trial. kyle, give us sort of the read of sanford on this trial so far. there's been a lot brought up sort of about the cultural kind of chasm here. you have a jury where we have six women and you have five of them being white. you now have a defendant on the stand who is african-american, who is culturally maybe a little bit different than what america is used to seeing. is there a question i

mr. de la rionda in sybrina fulton's home with her sitting next to you, when mr. de la rionda says, okay, when you heard that noise, something hitting somebody, you didn't, did you, hear the man say anything or did you hear trayvon say anything? remember that question? >> yes, sir. >> and up until that point you had never told anyone that after this hit that you heard anything else, correct? >> yes, sir. >> so as this questioning continues to get contentious, we are going to scoot in a very quick break because we don't want to miss the rest of this. we are back in just a moment and will continue to update you object everything that happens during the commercial break as well. ♪ even superheroes need superheroes, and some superheroes need complete and balanced meals with 23 vitamins and minerals. purina dog chow. help keep him strong. dog chow strong. >>> so we're live back on the george zimmerman case. what you missed not much because the witness on the stand right now under this redirect examination by don west, his defense attorney, is a transcript of her convers

mr. de la rhonda said to you in a question i could reads it exactly or paraphrase it, but the conversation was that mr. de la rionda asked you -- >> may i see it, sir? may i see it, sir? >> let me set the stage. mr. de la rionda said did he ever say the guy got out of the car? >> i don't remember, sir. >> you don't remember that -- >> what are you talking about? >> here is what i am talking about, that mr. de la rionda asked you did he ever say the guy got out of the car and your response to him was you want that, too, do you remember that? >> i don't remember that. >> let's play it. >> if you can please give her a copy. >> let me direct your attention to this paragraph, ask you to read that. it is my note here underneath is what i thought i heard your answer was, so i want you to see if you remember that and if that was your answer and i will ask you that. >> no, sir. >> you say no. >> that's want what i said. >> you can't hear you. >> that's not what i said. that's your opinion, sir. >> all right. >> that's what you thought i said. >> on the paragraph where mr. de la rionda asked you did he ever say the guy got o

mr. de la rionda was conducting the first interview by law enforcement. >> trayvon mother -- >> trayvon's mother sabrina fulton, correct? >> yes. >> was in the room with you when mr. de la rionda was asking you questions for the first police interview. >> yes, sir. >> and where was she in the room? >> beside me. >> so she's sitting right beside you as de la rionda was asking you questions as his office was investigating this murder case? >> repetitive. also the nature of the questions. >> sustained. >> your honor, may i have a little latitude on cross examination please? >> you're being given a lot of latitude, as you're entitled to. the objection is because you repeat the answer of the last question in your new question. and i think that you're required to just ask a new question. if you want to ask another question that gives an answer, you may do so. but the objection's to continuing to repeat the answer in your new questions. >> i apologize. my effort's to be precise so the witness knows exactly what we're talking about, but i will try to do it a little differently. >> thank you. >> r

mr. de la rionda, do you want me to give you an answer on that, too, and mr. rionda's response is, i want to know the truth. >> i understand it because i heard it, too, and i understand your argument, but for impeachment you have the witness, in this case, listen to, in other cases, it's read, to themselves what the question and answer was and then you asked them, is that what you said and they admit it or they say, yes, i did, or no i didn't. if they say, no, i didn't, then that's impeachment and you play it for the jury. and she's admitting that that's what it was. so -- >> your honor, my response there is -- >> i'm not finished. >> oh, i'm sorry. >> thank you. so to play that in front of the jury is not impeachment. that's the objection. and you can ask miss jeantel in front of the jury, did you have an opportunity to listen to your statement? yes. and do you now, i'm going to ask you the question, again, is that your answer? if she gives an answer that is not what you think is appropriate, then you play it to the jury. >> may i respond briefly? >> yes, i ma

mr. de la rionda had already gone over it so i'm just going to hit some height points on it, if i might. >> okay. >> his vital signs, blood pressure, 130/80. >> correct. >> a concern for a 28-year-old? >> slightly high on the systolic side but from what i remember in the past, he's never had a problem with high blood pressure before. >> but not a good high blood pressure, right? like to see it lower. >> ideally we like to see it 120 or less but i wouldn't be concerned at 130. >> pulse at 109. >> that is high. ideally we see this around 70 to 8. >> evidencing what to you? >> that an increased pulse rate can be related to stress or to trauma. it can also be related to multiple other things. something to do with your heart, you know, causing some sort of cardiac condition. >> nonetheless, again, not in top shape. huh? >> it's not where we would like it to be. >> and how about the bmi? >> the bmi is 31.48. and again. >> meaning that he is clinically obese. >> correct, based on bmi classification. >> and again, not healthy. >> ideally that's not the healthy range. normally between 19 to the 2

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mr. de la rionda under oath is that you created a lie and said you had gone to the hospital? >> yes. >> so when you told ms. fulton what was happening on this march 19th meeting, you told her you had gone to the hospital? and that's why you didn't go to the funeral? >> i told her, yes. >> and then you gave her the letter? >> gave her the letter. >> had you agreed at that point to be interviewed by her attorney? >> yes. >> was your purpose at that point to do what you could do to assist so that george zimmerman goal arrested? >> yes. >> then what you did is you had a reported enter view with the family attorney. >> yes. >> you were supposed to see them in byrne. is that right? >> yes. >> you didn't go? or they changed the plan? why didn't you see them in person? >> they agreed it would be better on the phone. >> who agreed? >> first it was supposed to be a person, that's what she told me, meet somewhere else. some place. first she told me, and then i was about to leave to go to my friend's house -- >> and where were you supposed to meet them? >> i don't -- i don't remember. >>

mr. de la rionda misstated the witness's testimony in his question. could we -- >> i'd be glad -- >> just restate your question and if you could give your answer slowly for us. and loud. >> you mentioned the trayvon martin told you this man was looking at him. >> yes. >> all right. you told him that -- >> this is leading now. >> i'm trying to get to the point. >> you're objecting that you can't understand what she's saying. we're trying to get the answer in. if you could please give us your answer. after the question, give us your answer as slowly and clearly and loudly as you can. have a seat. >> it's really hard for me to see the witness if i'm seated. we have an obstruction issue in the courtroom. >> this is the first witness you're telling me you're having an issue with seeing. if you need to move your seat to another place at the table, you may feel free to do so. >> thank you, your honor. >> thank you. >> mr. de la rionda, ask your question, please. >> you mentioned that trayvon martin said something to you. you said something back to him. follo

mr. de la rionda asking her questions from the state's point of view. she then had to sit down with mr.d go through two days of grueling depositions, him asking the same questions over and over and over and over. taking a witness that shouldn't have been on the stand no more than an hour and kept her on the stand for five and a half hours over two days. she didn't ask for this. this is one of the reasons why witnesses do not want to come out and tell what they saw, because in the court of public opinion, they're castigated, they're ridiculed. they talk about the way she appeared on the stand, her demeanor, the way she spoke. >> let me ask about that. is she aware of these attacks? to your knowledge, is she aware of all of what is going on in social media and other places that are taking a lot of shots at her? >> well, i'm sure, because she is allowed to, you know, look at the social media. she is allowed to go on facebook. but i've asked her not to tweet anything. i've asked her to stay off of social media. i asked her to try to keep her away from what she has been seeing, what she has

listen to it carefully, but the one thing we want to know for sure is what you said following mr. de la rionda'sons. >> yes, sir. >> did he ever describe -- yeah, the guy now he's out of the car and he's chasing. he said the guy was following him, but did he ever say the guy got out of the car? i want to know the truth whether he said that or not. if he didn't say that, that's fine. >> when he like walking -- >> i know trayvon is running. right? or walking. my question is did trayvon ever describe to you, hey -- you know howfy see a football game, i say the guy was running fast or the guy ran to the left -- >> when he was at the mail thing -- >> yeah. >> -- he was on the phone. he telling me the man was on the phone. he put his hoodie on. the man was down one car. then car and trayvon started walking. he said, i think the man got on for some reason. >> that's what you believe. >> yeah, because he said the man was following him. he didn't say the man got out. >> yeah. >> but trayvon thought the man got out of the car. >> yeah. >> okay. fine. >> that's the video. you heard the audio clip that we w

mr. de la rionda wants the jury to understand just the fact you have statement one, statement two, statement three and statement four that are not all exactly the same, that you weren't lying, were you? >> no. >> okay, you've just answered the questions that were being asked, right? >> correct, some had more than the other ones. >> as best as you could remember of that event back then, correct? >> correct. >> and you even said that the adrenalin was flowing, wasn't it in. >> yes. >> it was an event where you sort of hyperfocus on what was happening once you realized it was serious? >> for a few seconds and turned and went back inside, yes. >> sure. called 911, not something you do every day, right? >> after that, yes, but yeah. >> it was really sort of a traumatic event for to you go through to see what you saw enough to call 911, wasn't it? >> it was enough for what i saw to call 911, yes. >> okay. so as you recounted the story time and time and time again, things became more expanded as you were asked those questions? >> yes, but i believe the groundwork stayed the same. >> sure, the groun

mr. de la rionda was under oath was that you created a lie and said that you had gone to the hospital? >> yes. >> so when you told miss fulton what was happening on this march 19th meeting, you told her that you had gone to the hospital? and that's why you didn't go to the -- to the funeral? >> yes, i told her, yes. >> and then you gave her the letter? >> i gave her a letter. >> and had you agreed at that point to be interviewed by her attorney? >> yes. >> and was your purpose at that point to do what you could do to assist so ta george zimmerman got arrested? >> yes. >> and what you did then was you had a recorded telephone interview with the family attorney? >> yes. >> you were supposed to see them in person. is that right? >> yes. >> but you didn't go or they changed the plan or why didn't you see them in person? >> they agreed it would be better for them on the phone. >> who agreed in? >> first it was supposed to be a person. that's what she told me and meet somewhere else, a place. >> can you speak up? >> first she told me when i was about to leave to go to my friend's house. >> a

. >> the other thing i wanted to ask you about is mr. de la rionda said in reference to trayvon martin saying creepy ass cracker, and using the "n" word, that people like -- people speak like that in your culture. did you hear that? >> yes, sir. >> well, what culture is that where people describe other people as creepy ass crackers? >> i'm sorry? >> do you understand by the culture you were raised in, the -- >> the area i was raised in you're trying to say? >> right. i'll say it this way. do people that you live around and with call white people creepy ass crackers? >> not creepy, but cracker, yeah. >> so the creepy is the pervert part that you were talking about? >> yeah. >> so forget that for a second. you're saying that in the culture that you live in, in your community, people call -- people there call white people crackers? >> yes, sir. >> and do they use the "n" word regularly? >> yes, sir. >> and you're saying so did trayvon martin? trayvon martin referred to white people as crackers, correct? >> i don't recall, sir. >> okay. thank you. nothing else. >> redirect? >> no, your hon