mr. del valle? >> well, i'd like to say that both gary chico and rahm emanuel have done very well. they're both individuals that have reported millions of dollars in income. and i certainly don't begrudge that. but the fact of the matter is that they've been able to do that, because they have taken full advantage of their contacts in the federal government, or in city government. and so i think this city is ready for a leader that takes money out of politics. and that's why i advocate stopping pay to play in the city of chicago. once and for all. >> thank you. ms. braun? >> well, again, i think the issue here is whether or not they disclose conflicts, potential conflicts of interest, whether or not mr. emmanuel registered as a lobbyist to let us know who he was representing and who he was calling, and relationship management. he's neither a cpa nor an mpa, nor a lawyer. and yet was able to go into a field that traditionally requires that set of credentials. so i think we need to know more, charles.