mr. delbianco in your view, an exception since it's often many used items? >> guest: well, i would say that less than half of e pay is used -- ebay is used items. ebay is a platform, like a classified ad, a platform for other sellers, and it's a fabulous platform for companies who would otherwise never reach that audience. and ebay is a california company. but with ebay was only looking out for the interests of small sellers from the united states who occasionally had california purchasers, right? should a small pennsylvania business that uses ebay to reach customers suddenly have to collect, remilt, file and face audits from california because it has a handful of customers? i'm glad they said the answer to that was no. they had to be doing at least a million dollars in california before they had to start looking in the eyes of the challenging of collecting for that state. >> host: carrie griffith. >> but if you had an ebay seller who reaches that limit, then they are -- >> guest: if they are a million in california plus at least 10,000 a year that they spen