mr. dellery hasn't talked about it and mr. abdo didn't talk about it in his initial argument and spoke about the standing argument, which doesn't mean he's waived it. it means he's relying on his brief. i don't know we need to hear more about any of those things. unless you -- i don't want to cut you off if there's something critical that we should know that you haven't gotten to. but we've given it probably more time than you'll get in the supreme court, let alone in the usual arguments here. >> i can also assure you, if and when you get to the supreme court, you won't see two of these. >> thank you, your honor. >> thank you very much. >> mr. abdo, i will hear you -- we will hear you on rebuttal. you're limited to two minutes in light of all that's been said. at the same time, we have had a very thorough discussion of the issues, i believe. so i hope that you will be able to be relatively brief and respond only to points that you haven't had an opportunity to address so far that mr. dellery has spoken of on his side of the ar