mr. demartini, is there another place where we could see a little more detail on how the commission itself is budgeted as there are a number of line items which come together when you bring that figure forward, that includes an addition to the stipend, obviously the cost for broadcasting, cost for deliver services, meals for late meetings that all might be -- could we perhaps, the president and the vice-president take a glimpse at it so we know it's properly projected for the two years to come? >> sure, we could do that >> commissioner sugaya. >> in previous years, we've had a much more detailed budget to look at in materials of line items, and i don't know if you've seen those, but we used to have them that were pages long and it was rather interesting to see by line item what the expenditures were for staff and other things. >> are you referring to the work program with like the fte counts? >> yes. >> and i think that addresses commissioner moore's question also, in two weeks, your memo will have that level of detail where it shows the proposed fte count widths the initiatives, if you wa