mr dempsey again thank you for being here today.this is likely the last hearing will have to gather. all the issues that brings together and never easy i will always appreciate your friendship, your service and dedication to this nation. for those of us who will not be the hundred 14th congress let me express our your leadership and service, above all your devotion to our troops. thank you mr chairman and gentlemen for being before us. mr smith can be here this morning so i will read his statement. these are not my words. i am probably very different than the thought will be going on this committee. mr smith will like to thank the windsors for being here today. just a few months ago the president notified congress he would carry more troops. on september 23 the nation of e in defeat patient strike on isil. taking hundreds of and syria iraq eliminating convoys and limiting the funding of operations. we also drove the leadership underground limiting their to command the forces. we need troops to protect the embassy and advise iraqi se

mr. dempsey and go on down the row. >> thank you. thank you members of the panel for giving us your time today. >> in a way, building off of something that chris said or at left what i heard, you are saying that we need the technology controls. we need to build the technology in a way that implements the controls but at the same time you need the policies that surround it. you need the legal rules et cetera. i think john, my first question was to you, you talked a lot about the potential of the technology in terms of tagging information and audit controls and permission controls but just to state the obvious, that's an substitute for legal rules and policies. >> absolutely not. we try to say, even when we talk about privacy and capabilities, if you think you're buying a switch that you can flick that protects privacy, it is not going to happen. it not possible. you have to be able -- you have to respond dynamically to changing situations. you have to be able to make human driven nuance decisions. about data and how it is oeused used

mr. dempsey and go down the line. thank you and thank you to the members of the piano for giving us your time today. in a weight building off of something that chris said or thati heard, you're saying we need the technology controls or to build the -- technology in a way that builds a controls at the same time in the policies that surrounded and the legal rules in my first question to you was that you talk a lot about the attentional of the technology in terms of tagging information and audit controls obvious, thatthe is not a substitute for the legal rules and policies. >> absolutely not and we try to say we talk about our privacy enhancement capabilities if you think you are buying a switch that you can flick protects privacy it is not going to happen. able to respond dynamically to changing situations and you have to be able to make human driven new wants decisions about data and about how it is used and if it is being used appropriately. and that is just something that machines cannot do. for the same reason we ar

mr. chairman, general dempsey, secretary hagel for being here. happy veterans day, happy veterans to the vet rans behind you. happy birthday and there's cake downstairs if you haven't had enough. very important topic, thank you all for being here. previous hearings we discussed how isis is self-financing and how that's kind of unique compared toment some other islamic extremist organizations in syria and other place, they're self-financing through smugg smuggling, extortion, murder, rape, these are bad people. general dempsey you mentioned some of the things that we're doing. have we been able to truly disrupt their financing source that will lead us to help in i guess break up their logistics? >> we have certainly disrupted it. there are some things that i'd be more willing to share with you in a classified setting where we have reflections of the impact of some of the things we've done against their oil revenue, for example. but again, some of that's probably best described in a classified setting. but i will tell you, the answer to your, the a

mr. chairman, general dempsey, secretary hagel for being here. happy veterans day, happy veterans to the vet rans behind you. happy birthday and there's cake downstairs if you haven't had enough. very important topic, thank you all for being here. previous hearings we discussed how isis is self-financing and how that's kind of unique compared toment some other islamic extremist organizations in syria and other place, they're self-financing through smugg smuggling, extortion, murder, rape, these are bad people. general dempsey you mentioned some of the things that we're doing. have we been able to truly disrupt their financing source that will lead us to help in i guess break up their logistics? >> we have certainly disrupted it. there are some things that i'd be more willing to share with you in a classified setting where we have reflections of the impact of some of the things we've done against their oil revenue, for example. but again, some of that's probably best described in a classified setting. but i will tell you, the answer to your, the a

mr. chairman, thank you. >> general dempsey. >> thank you, chairman. want to add appreciation to you on behalf of the joint chiefs of leadership and all you have done for the defense of our nation, your devotion to the men and women of the joint force and importantly to their families will continue to resonate throughout our ranks. i too appreciate the opportunity to appear before this committee this morning to discuss our strategy against i.s.i.l., secretary hagel has already detailed the elements and the progress of our comprehensive approach against i.s.i.l. broadly our strategy is to reenforce a credible partner in the iraqi government and assist regional stakeholders to address the 20 million disenfranchised sunnis who live between damascus and baghdad and they have to reject the i.s.i.l. ideology from within and implementing iraq first strategy enabled by coalition but as i said before it's not iraq only strategy and it will evolve through the coalition and with multiple lines of effort and over time. we need to squeeze i.s.i.l. from multiple dir

mr. dempsey and go down the line. thank you for giving us your time today. it's something that chris english said or what i heard. you are saying that we need the technology controls. we need to build the technology in a way that implements the controls and at the same time we need the tell uses that voups. you need the rules and etc. my first question was to you. you talked a lot about the potential and the technology in terms of the permission controls and to state the obvious, that's not a substitute for the legal rules. >> absolutely not. >> we try to say when we talk about the privacy, if you think you are buying a switch that you protect privacy, it's not going to happen. it's not possible. you have to change the situations. you have to be able to make decisions about data and about how it's used and being used appropriately. you can't build a terrorist button. you need a human at the top of the chain. do it. the goal for -- i distrust any technology that said don't worry about it. we have privacy covered. what the gulf should be for technology is what

mr. chairman for holding this important hearing. secretary hagel and general dempsey thank you for your time today. as i stated before, i believe that isil could become a direct threat to the united states or our allies in europe, and we must make efforts to avoid that threat. while i believe that we must keep all of our options open, it must be a joint effort with our coalition and allies to stop isil. secretary hagel, what additional u.s. or allied military support do you believe it will take for the iraqis, the kurds or the syrian rebels to hold their current position and eventually advance to retake areas now controlled by isil? >> kong woman -- congress women as i noted in my statement, that's a very important part of what we are doing to assist the iraqi security forces as they strengthen their capacity, capabilities. that's obviously a big part of the train and equip effort. as our coalition partners are with us on this. as well as a reinstitution of the iraqi security forces at -- at the top with confidence, with trust, of the men and women in uniform, and a u

mr. secretary and general dempsey, again, thank you for being here today. this is likely the last hearing a that we will have together. all the issues that bring us together are never easy. i've always appreciated your friendship and candid conversations. and your service and dedication to this nation. for those of us that will not be here in the 114th congress, let me express our gratitude to you for leadership, service and above all your devotion to our troops. >> thank you mr. chairman. gentlemen, thanks for being before us. mr. smith could not be here. i'll be reading his statement if it so pleases. these are not my words. as you know mr. chairman, i'm probably very different than a lot of the thought that's going on in this committee in many ways. these will be mr. smith's words. he'd like to thank the witnesses for appearing here today. just three months ago the president notified congress he had authorized the commander of central command to undertake air strikes in iraq against isil. just two short months ago september 23rd, the administration provi

chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey has suggested that he might recommend ground troops to mra. general dempsey made an unannounced visit to iraq on saturday. he says the tide is turning in the battle against isis in iraq. senior international correspondent arwa damon reports on the significance of the trip. >> reporter: america's top military man's surprise visit to iraq, a clearenication of how seriously washington is taking the situation. general martin dempsey meeting with the iraqi prime the two spoke about progress being made so far by the iraqi security forces. general dempsey then also traveled on to irbil, the capital of the autonomous region of kurdistan, meeting with the prime minister there as well. part of this next phase of the u.s.-led mission and coalition is to focus on a training of security forces, 12 units, part of the initial effort. nine of them iraqi army, three of them peshmerga. general dempsey speaking with military commanders on the ground wanting to get an idea of what it is they need to be able to move this mission forward. general dempsey is very

mr. chairman, thank you. >> general dempsey? >> thank you. i want to thank you for all you've done for the defense of our nation. your devotion to men and women of the joint force and importantly to their families will continue to resonate throughout our ranks. i too appreciate the opportunity to appear before this committee this morning to discuss our strategy against isil. secretary hagel has detailed the elements and progress of our comprehensive approach against isil. broadly, our strategy is to reinforce a credible partner in the iraqi government and assist regional stakeholders to address the 20 million disenfranchised sunnis that live between damascus and baghdad. they have to reject the isil ideology from within. we have the first strategy enabled by the coalition, but as i've said before, it's not an iraq-only strategy. it will evolve with the coalition and multiple lines of effort overtime. we need to squeeze isil from multiple directions, deny safe haven, and disrupt activities in syria. we need to build up a syrian opposition to c

as a military force, general dempsey, mr.el are keeping their eye on the ball of defeating isil. it is not focused on the replacement or the transition of assad. that's a political solution. and i think until you gain consensus by a great many allies in this case, some very complex in nature, you're talking not only russia, but turkey, iran, saudi arabia, qatar, uae, this is an interesting coalition all having different aspects of what syria might look like while we're defeating isil. the whole problem comes back to how do you defeat one element, the conflict in syria without affecting or allowing mr. assad to go after singly the other element which is the free syrian army. i'm looking at this house armed services committee. you can see the chairman giving his opening remarks. you saw defense secretary chuck hagel walk into the room. barbara, i'll ask you a question about chuck hagel. arming these syrian rebels was to help us win the war on isis, right? those moderate syrian rebels haven't even been vetted yet. are any of the

mr. chairman. general dempsey, thank you very for your service. academy secretary, the same -- and secretary, the same. all youriate attempting to do. my question, general dempsey, and syria?ar in iraq >> we are at war against isil, yes, sir. case, wouldt is the you, secretary, please provide most recent legal authority for the united states war?nduct such a we know that previously there war powers act. but apparently that is no longer days has since 90 passed. and we're still at war. the iraq or the useanistan authorization to military force. but i'd like to have the most justification. if you would please, for the record. also, we heard the chairman in his opening remarks say that any use military to force that is not unlimited is arrival. since the chairman is not here, perhaps his staff could tell the chairman that, at least this member of this committee would see his proposed authorization to use military force, as broad as he might like to do. bottom line here, this is more you twohan for gentlemen, the obligation that we have under the cons

mr. secretary and general dempsey, again, thank you for being here today. this is likely the last hearing we will have together. all of the issues that bring us together are never easy. i have always appreciated your friendship and candid conversations and your service and dedication to this nation. not bese of us that will here in the 114 congress, let me express our gratitude to you for leadership, service and above all, devotion to the troops. ms. sanchez. , mr. chairman. mr. smith could not be here this rating hisi will be statements. so again, these are not my words. probably very am different than a lot of the thoughts going on in the .ommittee he would like to thank the witnesses for appearing here today. congressdent notified he had authorized central command to undertake airstrikes short monthstwo ago on september 23 the administration provided a war powers notification of strikes in syria. since that time, the u.s. has taken hundreds of strikes in syria,nd substantially impacting the ability to sell oil to fund the operation and driving the leader

mr. secretary and general dempsey, again, thank you for being here today.this is likely the last hearing have together. and all of the issues that bring easy,ether are never easy,gh they are never i've always appreciated your friendship and candid conversations and your service and dedication to this nation. for those of us who will not be here in the 114th congress, let gratitude to you for your leadership, your service, and above all, your to our troops. ms. sanchez? >> thank you, mr. chairman. againntlemen, thank you for being before us. mr. smith could not be here this be reading i will his statement, so please, i hope the chairman -- again, these are not my words, because as you mr. chairman, i am probably very different than a lot of the thought that's going in manye committee ways. but these will be mr. smith's words. thank the witnesses for appearing here today, just three months ago the president that he hadgress authorized the commander of central command to undertake air against isilaq just two shorts months ago on september 23. the administratio

dempsey's visit. in all probability, mr. kassig was probably executed back in october, but this is how isis works. they can only survive when they own the psychological high ground, when they can continue to the attract young recruits with their message. and their message is one of brutality and evil, but it tends to appeal to the young men in the middle east and they're playing that card very well. >> are they doing this very well in syria largely or elsewhere? there are reports that al qaeda and isis are getting together in syria. >> well, al qaeda, al nusra, yeah. but we have to be careful. this is a terrorist group and it won't come off like a grand coalition. these terrorist groups each have their own constituency and their own strategy. but what we have to understand is that the psychological message that isis is putting out is going beyond the middle east. it's beginning to appear in the united states. certainly in western europe and throughout the middle east. they have this sick appeal to young islamic men who have nothing to do with their lives other than join up. and we have to be very

mr. chairman, thank you. >> general dempsey? >> thank you. i want to thank you for all you've done for the defense of our nation. your devotion to men and women of the joint force and importantly to their families will continue to resinate resonate throughout our ranks. i too appreciate the opportunity to appear before this committee this morning to discuss our strategy against isil. secretary hagel has detailed the elements and progress of our comprehensive approach against isil. broadly, our strategy is to reinforce a credible partner in the iraqi government and assist regional stakeholders to address the 20 million disenfranchised sunnis that live between damascus and baghdad. they have to reject the isil ideology from within. we have the first strategy enabled by the coalition, but as i've said before, it's not iraq only strategy. it will evolve with the coalition and multiple lines of effort overtime. we need to squeeze isil from multiple directions, deny safe haven and disrupt activities in syria. we need to build up a syrian opposition

secretary perez,r, secretary members of your family's, dempsey, and hope, andes, ron other representatives of veterans service organizations. dr. and mrsadvocacy on the part of veterans. god bless the memory of your son daniel. other distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, good morning everyone. what a great day for honoring veterans. have setes, americans aside this hour of this day of this month to honor those who have served this country in uniform. in times of both peace and war. it is fitting that veterans day come so close to thanksgiving, because it is the day to give --nks and to ask [no audio] it is a day of both prayers and promises. we pray and promised that those who served and are serving will never be forgotten. returning warriors will not bear their wounds alone. their families will receive help and facing uncertain futures. we as a grateful nation embrace and care for survivors. a --year, all of us at the .a. arrived on the road. the road was built on the v.a.'s mission. we care for those who a borne the battle and the families and survivors. we set three goals for ourselves as we began to move forward. the first wa

mr. chairman, president obama, chairman dempsey, all our leaders have been clear that the campaign against isil will be long and will be difficult. we are three months into a multiyear effort. as we enter a new phase of this effort, working to train and equip more counter isil forces in iraq and syria, we succeed only with the strong support of congress and the strong support of the committee. since i testified before this committee two months ago, our campaign against isil has made progress. isil's advance in parts of iraq stalled, and in some cases, been reversed by iraqi, kurdish, and tribal forces and other coalition air strikes, but isil continues to represent a serious threat to american interest, our allies in the middle east. wields influence still over a large swath of territory in western and northern iraq and eastern syria. >> here are just a few of the comments we recently received from viewers. >> caller: i watch c-span2 and 3, so pleased with the programming, especially the history aspects. i just saw real america, a short clip, where jfk gave a speech in berl berlin. i enjoy

mr. chairman, president obama, chairman dempsey, general austin, all of our leaders and i have been very clear that our campaign against isil, it will be long and it will be difficult. we are three months into a multi-year effort. as we enter a new phase of this effort, working to train and equip more counter-isil forces in iraq and syria, we will succeed only with the stlong support of congress. and the strong support of this committee. since i campaigned before this committee two months ago, we have made progress. isil has been stalled and in some cases been stopped by u.s. and coalition air strikes. but isil continues to represent a serious american threat to our allies in the middle east and wields influence over a broad swath of territory in western and northern iraq and eastern syria. >> here are just a few of the comments we've recently received from our viewers. >> i watch c-span2 and 3. i am so pleased with the programmi programming, especially the higs ri aspects. i just saw real america, a short trip where jfk gave a speech. i have always found that to be wonderful. i enjoyed

. >> jim dempsey will be moderating this panel. >> thank you, mr. chairman. good morning again to members. particularly, good morning to our second panel. the title of our panelists privacy interest in the counterterrorism context and the impact of technology. i have no opening statement of my own, so we can go straight to the opening statements by witnesses. i will introduce each of them in turn. we will go right down the row, which happens also to be alphabetical order. i remind the witnesses that we would ask them to keep their opening remarks to seven minutes. there is a timekeeper, which he might not have seen, but in the front row here come of renÉ, who will be holding up a yellow card for your two minute warning and then a red card for time is up there after a round of questioning by the board members then began the possibility of questions submitted by members of the congress. staff members throughout the audience had little index cards. so with during the course of the panel a question occurs to you, raise your hand and someone will bring you over a

mr. hope. please welcome the honorable robert mcdonald, secretary of veterans affairs. [applause] >> vice president biden, recipient ryan, secretary hagel and members senator family, king, senator leader pelosi, secretary mccue, chairman dempsey, your al grenard, and cohost . ron holt, our -- ron hope, articles for this year's organization. you for mers, thank your advocacy on behalf of veterans. fellow veterans, members of armed forces, va colleagues, good morning, everyone. for decades, americans have set aside this hour of this day of this month to honor those this country d in uniform. and times of both peace and war. it is fitting that veterans day come so close to thanksgiving because veterans day to give thanks and asked the almighty's serve ng on those who and have served the cause of peace. day of secret remembrance, and it is a day of both prayers and promises. we pray and promise that those and are still serving, will never be forgotten. that returning warriors will bear their wounds alone. that their families will in facing lp uncertain futures, and that grateful nation, will embrace and care for survivors of those who do not return. us at va , all of arrive at the ceremony after traveling along what we call, the

dempsey, general dunford, admiral grinnard, and your spouses, ron hope, disabled american veterans our co-hosts for this year's celebration, and other representatives of veterans service organizations, dr. and mrssummers, thank you for your advocacy on behalf of veterans and god bless the memory of your son daniel. fellow veterans, members of our armed forces, v.a. colleagues, other distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen. good morning, everyone. what a great day for honoring veterans. for decades, americans have set aside this hour of this day of this month to honor those who have served this country in uniform. in times of both peace and war. it's fitting that veterans day comes so close to thanksgiving because veterans day is the day to give thanks to and ask the almighty's blessings on those who serve and have served the cause of peace. it's also a day of sacred remembrance and it's a day of both prayers and promises. we pray and promise that those who have served and are still serving will never be forgotten. that returning warriors will not bear their wounds alone. that their families will receive help and n facing uncertain futures, and that we as a grateful nation will embrace and ca

mr. gruber on the stupidity of the american people. karl rove and bret baier are here on that. chairman dempsey. are we beating isis?e nation unemployment rate for october, 6.5%. in the african-american community, it's 11% and much worse for the youngest african-american workers. 22% are without a job. >> so what should be done to turn things around? joining us now is senior pastor of the potter's house church, bishop t.d. jakes. what an honor. thank you so much for being with us. >> i'm glad to be here. >> so what is the problem? why the discrepancy? >> huge disparity and many reasons in my view. some of it is overt and covert racism continues to exist in this country and it's a problem that america doesn't always want to address. the other problem is just the low grade problem of not having the relationships and context of the white counterparts do to have opportunities for jobs. it's about who you know or who you went to school with, who has power to make decisions, to get you into job positions when you don't have that -- education is a third issue. are you qualified for today's job market? sometimes you were qu

dempsey's trip means next. then: >> this question gives me no please mr. serious allegations raised about you in recent days. >> bill cosby confronted about rape allegations on the air. wait until you hear his response straight ahead. >>> now brand new surveillance video and police radio calls from the day darren wilson shot and killed a unarmed teenager in ferguson. the audio shows the fatal shooting lasted less than two minutes. and these new tapes released after the ferguson community awaits the grand jury decision. stephanie elam is in ferguson with more. >> reporter: the st. louis post dispatch obtained the video and audio through the sunshine law. according to the paper's timeline of the august 9th encounter between darren wilson and michael brown. at 11:53 a.m. a stealing in progress at the ferguson market. >> we're taking a stealing in progress from 9101 west florissant. >> the post dispatch assays about 19 later dispatch issues a description. >> black male in a white tee shirt. running towards quick trip. he took a whole box of the swisher cigars.

dempsey asked me when he came back what happened. and his response was, that is not very interesting, the explanation but -- i will take one more and then we've got to go. >> mr. secretary, over the years we heard very similar words from your predecessor. how do you convey to the american public that this time will be different? each time we've heard you know, we're going to make the nuclear enterprise -- is this because the nation's been at war and there hasn't been enough bandwidth and officials have been diverted in their attention? how can you explain that this will be different this time? >> well, i think it is, all of the things you mentioned and number of things that mentioned in my statement. let's start with what this enterprise has been focused on mainly, the last 13 years, two large ground wars. and when you have that situation, when america has been at war, and has had large numbers of troop commitments in those two wars, when a nation is at war, that's a focus. that isn't the only reason i think this nuclear enterprise has been kind of allowed to back downhill a little bit. it is that. it is, not paying attention where we should have in some area