mr. kelly. >> i'm dennis kelly, president of the united educators of san francisco. there were two things that i wanted to comment on tonight, and they're pretty well separated. one is the -- on page 54 and following, the personnel items that you see there. those personnel items, if you tally up the number of people who were brought on as full-time employees, you have about 135. if you plug in the interns, you have another 35, and then you have another 40 or so, i think, emergency appointments and such like that. those numbers exceed the number of layoffs. and this isn't the only time that you're reporting hiring people. and while the period that we went through last year with the layoffs is, of course, gone and we can't do much about that, we can learn from what happened then and compare what we have now and consider to what degree layoffs like those are necessary. if virtually everybody has been brought back and we have not touched the obama edu-funds money at this point, then there's a question about why we spent whatever it was -- $450,000, $500,000, and went thr