mr. deutsche votes aye. ms. bass votes aye. mr. richmond votes yes. mr. jeffries votes aye. m mr. swalwell votes aye. mr. lu. mr. craskin votes aye. ms. jaipol votes aye. ms. demings votes aye. mr. carrera votes yes. ms. scanlon votes aye. ms. garcia votes arngsye. ms. mcbeth votes aye. mr. stanton votes aye. ms. dean. ms. dean votes aye. ms. powell votes aye. ms. escobar votes aye. mr. collins votes no. mr. sensenbrenner votes no. mr. shabbot votes no. mr. gomer votes no. mr. jordan votes no. mr. buck votes no. mr. radcliff votes no. ms. robe votes no. mr. gaetz votes no. mr. johnson of louisiana votes no. mr. biggs votes no. ms. mcclintock votes no. ms. lesco votes no. mr. cline votes no. mr. armstrong votes no. mr. stubie votes no. >> has every member of the committee who wishes to vote voted? clerk will report. >> mr. chairman, there are 23 ayes and 17 noes. >> the article is agreed to. the resolution is amended reported favorably to the house. members will have two days to submit views. the resolution will be recorded as a single amendment. without objection staff is authoriz

mr. deutsch is making here. article one of the constitution, that gives representatives the sole power of impeachment. that gives the senate the sole power of trial. united states versus nixon, the supreme court emphasized that the rules and procedures are completely within the power of the house and the senate and cannot be second-guessed by the courts. in terms of general congressional oversight the gentleman is perfectly correct. the the supreme court emphasized that the fact-finding and power of congress is central to, enter goal two and up built into our legislative power. james madison said that those who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power that knowledge gives and where does congress get the knowledge to legislate for the people? we get it, through subpoenas and through to the discovery process. no administration in history has ever attempted to do with this administration has done which is to pull the curtains down over the executive branch and deny us all of the investigati

mr. deutsche? >> aye. >> mr. deutsche votes aye. miss bass? >> aye. mr. richmond? >> yes. >> mr. richmond votes yes. mr. jeffries? >> aye. >> mr. jeffries votes aye. mr. cicilline? >> aye? >> mr. cicilline votes aye. mr. swalwell? >> aye. >> mr. swalwell votes iowa. miss jayapal? >> aye. >> miss jayapal votes aye. miss demmings? >> aye. >> miss demmings votes aye. mr. correa? >> yes. >> mr. correa votes yes. miss scanlon? >> aye. >> mrs. garcia? >> aye. >> miss mcbath? >> aye. >> mr. stanton? >> aye. >> mr. stanton votes aye. miss dean? >> aye. >> miss dean votes aye. miss mccarsel powell? >> aye. >> miss mccarsel powell votes aye. miss escobar? >> aye. >> miss escobar votes aye. mr. collins? >> no. >> mr. collins votes no. mr. sensenbrenner? >> no. >> mr. sensenbrenner votes no. mr. shabbat? >> no. >> mr. shabbat votes no. mr. gohmert? >> no. >> mr. jordan votes no. mr. buck? >> no. >> mr. buck votes no. mr. radcliffe? mr. radcliffe votes no. miss roby? >> no. >> mr. gaetz votes no. mr. johnson of louisiana? >> no. >> mr. johnson of louisiana votes no. mr. biggs? >> no. >> mr. b

mr. deutsche, aye. >> mr. deutsche votes aye. >> miss bass votes aye. mr. richmond. yes. >> mr. richard votes yes. mr. jeffreys votes aye. >> cicilline votes aye. >> mr. wal well ye, n mr. liu. aye. mr. raskin. eye. >> miss demings votes aye. mr. consider rhea votes aye. miss scan lohn. >> aye. >> miss garcia. >> aye. >> miss garcia votes aye. mr. na? goose. >> as the democrats and republicans fend off over these procedural motions, we're just going to check in quickly with jeffrey toobin and other members of our pane em. it seems this is the second time that republicans have forced a procedural vote and chairman nadler the democrat is moving to table it. it will no doubt be successful. what itself the purpose of this other than to kind of gum up the works? jeffrey. >> i think you summed it up very quite. we i don't think there is a purpose besides that what's significant about the rules of this committee is that the republicans even when they make frivolous motions like that one to delay this hearing to, is that they can get a role call vote, which as we are watching here, and

mr. deutsche. >> mr. chairman, i have a motion. >> state his motion. >> i move the committee will be in recess. >> i move the table. >> i move to table the motion. >> privileged motion. it is not debate ible. all those in -- >> i seek a recorded -- >> a vote. >> aye, nay. >> the ayes have it. the committee -- roll call. >> mr. nadler. >> hi. >> mr. nadler votes eye, mr. lee. >> aye. >> mr. soehn. >> aye. >> mr. johnson of georgia, mr. deutsche. >> aye. >> miss bass. >> aye. >> mr. richmond. >> aye. >> mr. jeffries. >> aye. >> mr. sis listeny. >> aye. >> mr. swal well. >> aye. >> mr. liu. >> aye. >> mr. raskin. >> aye. >> mr. >>o poll. >> aye. >> miss demings. >> aye. >> 234r8 correia. >> aye. >> scanlan. >> aye. >> garcia? >> aye. >> mr. mcgoose. >> aye. >> mcbeth. >> mr. stanton. >> aye. >> miss dean. >> aye. >> escobar. >> aye. >> mr. collins? >> no. >> mr. sense enbrenner? >> mr. -- mr. sense berner notes no. mr. shafrt, no. >> mr. jordan. >> no. >> mr. buck? >> mr. radcliffe. >> no. >> mr. rebbe. >> n

mr. deutsch, aye. miss bass, aye. mr. richmond, yes. mr. jeffries, aye. mr. cicilline, aye. mr. swalwell, aye. mr. lieu. mr. raskin, aye. miss jia paul, aye. miss demings, aye. mr. correa, yes. miss scanlon, aye. miss garcia, aye. mr. neguse, aye. miss mcbath, aye. mr. stanton, aye. miss dean, aye. miss mucarsel-powell, aye. miss escobar, aye. mr. collins, no. mr. sensenbrenner, no. mr. chabot, no. mr. gomer, my vote is no. mr. jordan, no. mr. buck, no. mr. ratcliffe, no. miss roby, no. mr. gaetz, no. mr. johnson of louisiana, no. mr. biggs, no. mr. mcclintock, no. miss lesko, no. mr. reschenthaler, no. mr. cline, no. mr. armstrong, no. mr. steube, no. >> has every member voted who wishes to vote? >> chairman, may i ask how i'm recorded? >> how is the gentleman recorded? >> mr. gomer you are recorded as no. >> i want to make sure. >> clerk will report. >> mr. chairman, there are 23 ayy he is and 17 nos. >> the article is agreed to. article two. clerk call the roll, obstructing justice. >> mr. nadler, no. miss -- -- -- aye, lofgren, aye, mr. cohen, aye. mr. johnson of georgia, ay

mr. deutsche? >> i have a motion. >> state his moment. >> i move the committee shall be in recess subject to the call of the chair. >> i move to table. >> move to table the motion. >> privileged motion. it's not debatabldebatable. all those in favor. >> i seek a recorded vote. >> say aye. opposed nay. >> the ayes have it. the committee -- >> roll call. >> the clerk will call the roll. >> mr. nadler. >> aye. >> ms. love gren. >> votes eye. >> jackson lee votes aye. >> mr. cohen votes aye. >> mr. johnson of georgia votes aye. >> mr. deutsche votes aye. >> ms. bass votes aye. mr. richmond votes aye. >> mr. jeffries votes aye. >> mr. sissilini votes aye. mr. swallow votes aye. >> mr. lieu votes aye. >> mr. jie pold votes aye. >>> mr. cora votes aye. ms. garcia votes aye. >>> these are historic hearings. maybe the last public hearings in the house of representatives before this committee votes out articles of impeachment to send to the full house to vote to impeach president trump before christmas. this

mr. deutsche votes aye. ms. bass votes aye. mr. richmond votes aye. mr. cicilline votes aye. mr. swalwell votes yes. mr. dem, votes aye. mr. correa votes aye. ms. garcia. >> eye. >> eye zbl /* /- aye. >> ms.esq escobar aye. mr. collins notes no. mr. gohmert. mr. jordan? mr. jordan votes no. mr. buck. mr. radcliffe votes no. ms. robey votes no. mr. gates votes no of louisiana. mr. bigs votes no. mr. mcclintock votes no. ms. lesko votes no. mr. klein. no. >> mr. armstrong votes no. >> has everyone voted who wishes to vote? >> mr. chairman, there are 24 ayes and 17 nos. >> the motion to -- the motion to table is adopted. i recognize professor karlan for her testimony. >> mr. chairman and members of the committee. thank you so much for the opportunity to testify. twice i have had the privilege of representing this committee and its leadership in voting rights cases before the supreme court, once when it was under the leadership of chairman sense brenner. good to see you again and with mr. shava and once under the leadership of chairman conyers. it was a great honor for me to represen

mr. deutsch. tonight we are called upon to protect the nation's core values and i'm going to tell you money and the economy are not our core values. cutting regulations are not our core values. tax cuts for the top 1%, not our core values. withholding desperately needed security assistance from an ally desperately in need is not a core value. coercing a foreign power to interfere in a presidential election is not our core value. giving congress the finger as it seeks to exercise its authority as a coequal branch of government is not a core value. i'll tell you what a core value is: fair and free elections and respect for the constitution and to take care that your duties are faithfully executed as president. that is our core value. the faithful execution of the office of the president, the upholding of the oath of office are our core values. to the best of your ability preserving, protecting, and defending our constitution, that is the nation's core values. when a president commits a grave abuse o

mr. deutsche seek recognition? >> move to strike the last word. >> thank you. there are two articles of impeachment. each is vitally important. obstruction of congress matters to all of us who value the separation of powers in the house and matter to all of us who value the separation of powers in the united states senate. article i vests in the house for sole power of impeachment. that's set forth in the constitution. what has the president done? president trump is the first and only president in american history to openly and indiscriminately defy all aspects of the constitutional impeachment process. >> october 26th, the president argued congress should not even be allowed to impeach him under the constitution. then, on october 8th, white house counsel, acting on behalf of the president, wrote a letter to the house and said president trump cannot permit his administration to participate. well, this is not a fishing expedition, this is a matter of great importance we talked about at length, the abuse of power that the president has exhibited. why did the pres

mr. deutsch. >> getting back to the facts surrounding the president's abuse of power surrounding the white house meeting as leverage for helping his political campaign. mr. goldman, president trump offered ukrainian president zelensky a meeting in the white house. but first he wanted investigations into the bidens on a conspiracy theory about meddling in the 2016 election. president trump worked to exchange official actions for personal benefit, and i want to talk about that. on may 23rd, 2019 a delegation of officials returned from zelensky's nomination and briefed the president. president trump directed government officials to work with his personal lawyer, isn't that correct? >> yes. >> and trump's handpicked ukraine operator testified that they faced a choice either work with giuliani or abandon the goal of a white house meeting. what choice did they make, mr. goldman? >> they decided to work with mr. giuliani. >> right. and six days later, on may 29th, president trump sent the new ukrainian president a letter that said, america stood with ukraine and invited president zelensky to visi

mr. deutsche? mr. deutsche votes no. miss bass? >> as they do this roll call, jeffrey toobin, this has been three hours already that they've just been debating the first of are clearly going to be several amendments to these two articles of impeachment, and the democrats are in the majority, so there is no suspense as to the outcome of these amendments that these republicans are putting forward. what's significant is the history of all of this that's unfolding. this is clearly a moment in american history that students will remember for years and years to come. >> and, you know, what is often said about congressional hearings is everything has been said but not everyone has said it. i mean, it is a certain degree of repetition, but if you actually -- oops, my microphone fell. if you do actually listen, i mean, you have a good sense of what the issue is here. there is a -- it's interesting, they're talking almost exclusively about the abuse of power, they're not talking much about the obstruction of congress. but i think this has be

mr. deutsche? >> no. >> mr. deutsche votes no. >> mr. richmond? >> no. >> mr. richmond votes no. >> mr. cicilline? >> no. >> mr. swalwell votes no. mr. liue. >> miss jayapal votes no. >> mr. correa votes no. miss scanlon? >> no. >> miss scanlon votes no. >> miss garcia. >> no. >> miss garcia votes no. >> mr. nagoose? >> no. >> miss mcbath votes no. >> mr. stanton? >> no. >> mr. stanton votes no. >> no. >> miss mccarsel powell? >> no. >> miss mccarsel powell votes no. >> miss escobar votes no. >> mr. collins votes aye. >> mr. sensenbrenner votes aye. >> mr. chabot? >> mr. chabot votes aye. >> mr. gohmert votes aye. >> mr. buck? mr. buck votes aye. >> mr. ratcliffe votes yes. >> miss roby votes aye. >> mr. gates? >> mr. gates votes aye. >> mr. johnson of louisiana? >> aye. >> mr. johnson of louisiana votes aye. >> mr. biggs? >> mr. biggs votes aye. >> mr. mcclintock votes aye. >> miss lesko votes aye. >> mr. klein votes aye. >> mr. armstrong votes yes. >> mr. stuby votes yes. >> has every member voted who wishes to vote? the clerk will report. mr. chairman there are 17 ayes and, nos. >> w

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mr. deutsche. >> mr. chairman, i have a motion. >> state his motion. >> i move the committee will be in recess. >> i move the table. >> i move to table the motion. >> privileged motion. it is not debate ible. all those in -- >> i seek a recorded -- >> a vote. >> aye, nay. >> the ayes have it. the committee -- roll call. >> mr. nadler. >> hi. >> mr. nadler votes eye, mr. lee. >> aye. >> mr. soehn. >> aye. >> mr. johnson of georgia, mr. deutsche. >> aye. >> miss bass. >> aye. >> mr. richmond. >> aye. >> mr. jeffries. >> aye. >> mr. sis listeny. >> aye. >> mr. swal well. >> aye. >> mr. liu. >> aye. >> mr. raskin. >> aye. >> mr. >>o poll. >> aye. >> miss demings. >> aye. >> 234r8 correia. >> aye. >> scanlan. >> aye. >> garcia? >> aye. >> mr. mcgoose. >> aye. >> mcbeth. >> mr. stanton. >> aye. >> miss dean. >> aye. >> escobar. >> aye. >> mr. collins? >> no. >> mr. sense enbrenner? >> mr. -- mr. sense berner notes no. mr. shafrt, no. >> mr. jordan. >> no. >> mr. buck? >> mr. radcliffe. >> no. >> mr. rebbe. >> n

mr. deutsche. mr. deutsche votes no. ms. bass votes no. mr. richmond. mr. jeffreys. mr. jeffreys votes no. mr. sicily knee votes no. mr. swalwell votes no. mr. raskin votes no. ms. demmings votes no. ms. scanlan votes no. ms. mcbath votes no. mr. stanton votes no. ms. dean votes no. mr. powell votes no. ms. escobar votes no. mr. collins votes aye. mr. sense brener votes aye. mr. gomert votes aye. mr. ratcliffe votes yes. ms. robey votes aye. mr. gates. mr. gates votes aye. mr. johnson of louisiana votes aye. mr. biggs votes aye. mr. mcclintock votes aye. ms. lessco votes aye. mr. klein votes aye. mr. armstrong votes yes. mr. stuby votes yes. >> are there any members who wish to vote who haven't voted? the clerk will report. >> mr. richmond, you are not recorded. >> no. >> mr. richmond votes no. >> any other members who haven't voted who wish to vote? the clerk will report. >> mr. chairman, there are 17 ayes and 23 noes. >> the amendment is not agreed to. are there any further amendments to the amendment in the nature of a substitute? >> i have an amendment at the desk. >

mr. deutsche? mrs. bass -- >> you are listening live to this historic day, thursday, december 12th, the house judiciary committee beginning the mark up against president donald j. trump. we have breaking coverage today, i want to bring in senateer claire mccaskill. we're going to see some of this procedural back and forth what is b happening when you see the minority republicans interject this way. >> they are just -- i don't really understand the point, they're going to try to make a point with this but i think it just falls flat, he will do motions to table and it will be a party line vote. >> so so we understand when they have this type of motion, you can get this role call vote. >> you can always get a roll call vote onge a motion to tabl for somebody who makes an actual objecti objection, or on a point of order where the chair on this one said i'm overruling your point of order, you don't get a minority hearing before duo this work b today, and we will be in until the republicans get worn down. >>

mr. deutsche. mr. richmond. mr. jeffries. mr. sisolini? mr. salvo. mr. lu? mr. raskin. ms. demings, mr. carrera. m ms. scanlon. ms. garcia. m ms. mcbeth. mr. stanton. ms. dean? ms. powell? ms. escobar. mr. collins. mr. senseson brenner. mr. gomer, mr. jordan. mr. buck, mr. radcliff. mr. gates? mr. johnson of louisiana? mr. biggs? mr. mcclintock. mr. cline? mr. armstrong. mr. stubie? >> has everyone voted who wishes to vote? >> ms. bass votes aye. >> clerk will report. >> 24 ayes and 17 noes. the motion to table is agreed to. >> i have a parliamentary inquiry. >> gentleman will state his parliamentary inquiry. >> the impeachment inquiry procedures states that members of the committee can raise objections relating to the admissibility of testimony in evidence. but it doesn't say what rules apply to admissibility. so i'm hoping you can explain to us what objections may be made under this clause and if you intend to use the federal rules of evidence -- >> the gentleman will suspend. that's not a proper parliamentary inquiry. >> it is. >> it is not. >> i stated a rule -- >> stated a rule, yo

mr. deutsch. >> aye. >> miss bass. >> aye. >> mr. richmond. >> aye. >> mr. jeffries. >> aye. >> mr. cicilline? >> aye. >> mr. swalwell. >> aye. >> mr. lu. >> aye. >> mr. raskin. >> aye. >> miss stemmings. >> aye. >> mr. correia. >> aye. >> miss garcia. >> aye. >> mr. nagoose. >> aye. >> miscellaneous mcbath. >> aye. >> miss dean. >> aye. >> miss powell. >> aye. >> miss escobar. >> aye. >> mr. collins. >> no. >> mr. sense brenner. >> no. >> mr. shab does the ot. >> no. >> mr. go mert. >> no. >> mr. jordan. >> no. >> mr. buck. >> mr. ratcliff. >> no. >> miss roby. >> no. >> mr. gaetz. >> no. >> mr. johnson of louisiana. >> no. >> mr. biggs mr. mcclintock. >> no. >> miss lesco. >> no. >> mr. rushtenthaler. mr. kline. >> no. >> mr. armstrong. >> no. >> mr. stube. >> no. >> mr. chairman, how am i recorded. >> mr. biggs, you are not recorded. >> i said no. >> mr. biggs votes no. >> has every member voted who wishes to vote? the clerk will report. >> mr. chairman, there are 24 ayes and 15 nos. >> motion to table is carried. >> mr. chairman, parliamentary inquiry. >> mr. castor is recognize

mr. deutsche. >> mr. chairman, i have a motion. >> gentleman will state his motion. >> i move the committee will be in recess subject to the call of the chair. >> i move to table. >> move -- >> move to table the motion. >> privilege motion it is not debatable. all those in favor of the committee recess -- >> aye. opposed nah. the aye's have it. role call? call the role. >> mr. nadler? >> aye. >> ms. lofgrin. >> aye. >> so they're doing another role call, jeffrey toobin. this time whether to take a little recess surprising. usually the chairman can just say let's take a little break and we'll resume in a few minutes but this time they're doing a formal role call again. >> this is a metaphor about how you can fight about absolutely everything. but it certainly does seem like they will take a break at some point soon since the democrats have the majority, it looks like they will push through the recess. >> it's a fore gone conclusion. democrats have the majority. they will win. they'll take a break right now

mr. deutsch both snow. ms. bass both snow. -- vote snow. mr. jeffries vote snow.s just a silly snow. mr. swalwell vote snow. mr. raskin, mr. negus votes no. ms. bass votes no. mr. stanton votes no. ms. dean votes no. miss russell powell votes no. ms. escobar votes no. mr. collins votes aye. mr. jensen burner votes aye. mr. savitz votes aye. mr. jordan votes yes. mr. buck votes aye. mr. radcliffe votes yes. ms. robie votes aye. mr. gates votes aye mr. bigs votes aye. mr. mcclintock votes aye. mr. let's go votes aye. mr. rush and dollar votes aye. mr. klein votes aye. mr. armstrong votes yes. mr. sue b votes yes. >> has everyone voted who wishes to vote? >> mr. korea you are not recorded. mr. korea both snow. votes no. >> mr. chairman, there are 17 ayes and 23 nos. >> the amendment is not agreed to. are there any -- >> mr. chairman i have an amendment at the desk. >> mr. russian dollar has an amendment at the desk. >> amendment to the amendment and the nature of the substitute to hrs 755, offered by mr. russian faller of pennsylvania. >> gentle lady reserves point o

mr. deutsche. mr. richmond. mr. jeffries. mr. sisolini? mr. salvo. mr. lu? mr. raskin. ms. demings, mr. carrera. m ms. scanlon. ms. garcia. m ms. mcbeth. mr. stanton. ms. dean? ms. powell? ms. escobar. mr. collins. mr. senseson brenner. mr. gomer, mr. jordan. mr. buck, mr. radcliff. mr. gates? mr. johnson of louisiana? mr. biggs? mr. mcclintock. mr. cline? mr. armstrong. mr. stubie? >> has everyone voted who wishes to vote? >> ms. bass votes aye. >> clerk will report. >> 24 ayes and 17 noes. the motion to table is agreed to. >> i have a parliamentary inquiry. >> gentleman will state his parliamentary inquiry. >> the impeachment inquiry procedures states that members of the committee can raise objections relating to the admissibility of testimony in evidence. but it doesn't say what rules apply to admissibility. so i'm hoping you can explain to us what objections may be made under this clause and if you intend to use the federal rules of evidence -- >> the gentleman will suspend. that's not a proper parliamentary inquiry. >> it is. >> it is not. >> i stated a rule -- >> stated a rule, yo

mr. deutsch vote snow. >> mr. richman votes no. mr. cellini? no. mr. swallow vote snow. mr. raskin vote snow. mistrial paul votes -- no. ms. garcia votes no. ms. mcbeth votes no. mr. stanton votes no. -- miss escobar votes no. mr. stenson berger -- mr. gomer votes aye. mr. radcliffe votes yes. miss robie votes aye. mr. gates votes aye mr. johnson of louisiana votes aye mr. bigs? mr. bigs votes aye, mr. clint talk? votes aye mr. resch and paul are votes aye. mr. armstrong? votes yes. mr. sufi votes yes. >> has every member voted who wishes to vote? clerical report. >> mr. chairman there are 17 ayes and 13's nos. >> it is not agreed in the nature of the substitute. >> i have an amendment at the desk. >> the young lady reserves the point of order. we will appoint the amendment. >> amendment to the amendment in the nature of the substitute, each at 755, offered by mr. jordan of ohio, page 4, striking line 23 and all that follows through line five, striking 10-17. >> the gentleman is recognized for the purpose of explaining the amendment. >> i withdraw my point of order. >> withd

mr. deutsch votes no. mr. richmond votes no. mr. jeffries votes no. mr. cissaline? no. mr. lui votes no. miss demmings votes no. mr. correia votes no. miss garcia? >> no. mismcbath votes no. mr. stanton votes no. miss dean votes no. miss escobar votes no. mr. collins votes aye. mr. sensen burn irvotes aye. mr. gohmert votes aye. mr. jordan votes yes. mr. buck? mr. radcliffe votes yes. miss roby votes aye. mr. gates votes aye. mr. biggs votes aye. mr. mcclintock voights aye. mr. russenthaler votes aye. mr. armstrong votes yes. mr. stubbey votes yes. >> mr. chairman, how am i recorded? >> i'm not recorded. >> i'd like to be recorded as no. >> mr. cohen votes no. >> any other members who wish to vote who have not voted? the clerk will report. >> mr. chairman there are 15 ayes and 24 nos. now we will engage in questions under the five minute rule, i yield myself five minutes for purpose of questioning the witnesses. mr. goldman, can you explain the difference between vice president biden's request to ukraine a few years ago, and president trump's request to ukraine earlier this

mr. deutsche? >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, this month we commemorate the 75th anniversary of battle of the bulge. my late father then staff sergeant deutsche received a purple heart fighting in the frigid ardens. he gave blood among tens of thousands of americans who suffered war casualties. served under officers and a commander in chief who were not fighting a war for their own personal benefit. they put country first. they made the same solemn promise that members of congress and the president of the united states make. to always put national interests above their own personal interest. the evidence shows that the president broke that promise. constitutional gives the president enormous power and imposes a remedy, impeachment when the powers are abused. ? july president trump said i quote, i have an article 2. i have the right to do whatever i want as president. quote/unquote. prompt feldman, the president has broad powers under the constitution including in foreign policy. right? >> yes, sir. >> to those powers, do

mr. deutsche votes aye. mr. richmond votes aye. mr. jeffries votes aye. mr. cicilline votes aye. mr. swalwell votes aye. mr. raskin votes aye. mrs. demmings votes aye. mr. correa votes aye. ms. scanlon votes aye. ms. garcia votes aye. ms. mcbath votes aye. mr. stanton votes aye. ms. dean votes aye. ms. escobar votes aye. mr. collins votes no. mr. sensenbrenner votes no. mr. gomer votes no.. mr. jordan votes no.. mr. buck. mr. ratcliffe notes no. ms. roby votes no. mr. gates votes no. >> mr. johnson of louisiana votes no. mr. biggs. mr. mcclintock votes no.. mr. cline votes no. mr. armstrong votes no. mr. steube votes no. >> mr. chairman, how am i recorded? >> mr. bigs, you are not recorded. i said no. >> mr. biggs votes no. >> has every member voted who wishes to vote? the clerk will report. mr. chairman, there are 24 ayes and 14 nos. >> may i make a parliamentary inquiry. >> i will not recognize a parliamentary inquiry at this time. >> good morning, chairman nadler and members of the committee and staff. my name is steve castor, i serve with ther, oversight committee the republican

mr. deutsche votes aye. mr. richmond votes aye. mr. jeffries votes aye. mr. lou votes aye. mr. ras kin votes aye. ms. demmings votes aye. >> aye ms. garcia votes aye. >> ms. mcbath. >> aye. >> mr. stanton. >> aye, mr. stanton votes ay. >> ms. dean. >> aye. >> ms. escobar. >> aye. >> mr. collins? >> nope. >> mr. collins votes note. >> mr. stenson berner votes no. >> mr. sabot votes no. >> mr. jordan votes no. >> mr. buck? >> mr. radcliffe? mr. radcliffe votes no. >> ms. roby votes no. >> mr. gates votes no. mr. johnson of louisiana. >> no. >> mr. johnson of louisiana votes no. mr. bigs. >> mr. mcclintok votes no. >> ms. lesco votes no. >> mr. kline. >> no. >> mr. kline votes no. mr. armstrong. >> no. >> mr. armstrong votes no. >> mr. stuby votes no. >> how am i recorded? >> mr. bigs you are not recorded. >> i said no. >> mr. bigs votes no. >> every member vote who had wishes to vote? the clerk will report. >> mr. chairman, 24 aye and 15 no. >> parliamentary inquiry? >> mr. caster is recognized. i will not recognize parliamentary inquiry at this time. >> good morning, chairman na

mr. deutsch votes no. missvo bass votes no. mr. richmond votes no. mr. jeffries votes no. mr. cicilline votes no. mr. swalwells vote moss. mr. lieu votes no. mr. ras kin votes no. miss jayapals votes no. miss demings votes no. mr. correia votes no. miss scanlon votes no. miss garcia votes no. mr. neguse vote no. mr. stan top votes no. miss dean votes no. miss mucarsel-powell votes no. miss escobar votes no. mr. collins y votes yea. mr. gohmert votes yes. mr. buck. mr. ratcliffe votes yes. miss roby votes yea mr. gaetz votes yea mr. johnson votes yea. mr. biggs votes yea. miss mcchin tok votes yea. mr. reschenthaler votes yea. mr. cline. mr. armstrong votes yes. mr. steube votes yes. >> mr. chairman. mr. chairman. how am i recorded? >> mr. cohen you are not recorded. >> recorded asre no. >> mr. cohen votes no. >> any other members who have wished to vote who have not voted? the clerk will report. >> mr.wi chairman there are 15 yeas and 24 nos. >> the motion is not greed to. now we will engage under the five minute rule. i yield myself for the purposes of questioning the witness

mr. deutsche and ms. bass left off.they walked us through how the president used the white house visit to apply pressure on ukraine to do his personal bidding. i want to talk about how the president did the same thing with almost 400 million taxpayer dollars to pressure ukraine do his personal bidding. so i'd like to start with turning back to the july 25th call. it's a fact that in the president's own words and the transcript submitted by him reveals that after you crane asked for military aid, trump says, i would like you to do us a favor, though. >> after president zelensky thanks president trump for the military sentence, then president trump asks for a favor. and of course by this point president trump had already placed the hold on the security assistance. >> now, my republican colleagues have suggested that the ukrainians did not even know about the military aid being withheld. is that true? >> no. there was significant evidence that even as early as july 25th at the time of this call that ukrainian officials had

mr. deutsch? mr. deutsch votes no. miss bass? miss bass votes no. mr. richmond? >> no. >> mr. richmond votes no. >> mr. jefferies? >> mr. jefferies votes no. mr. sis linney? >> no. >> some swalwell votes no. >> mr. raskin? >> no. >> miss jay pol. >> mr. correa? >> no. >> miss scanlon votes no. >> miss garcia? >> no. >> miss garcia votes no. >> miss mcbath. >> no. miss mcbath votes no. >> mr. scanton votes no. >> miss dean votes no. miss mccarsel powell votes no. miss escobar votes no. >> mr. collins votes aye. mr. sensenbrenner votes aye. >> mr. chabot votes aye. mr. gohmert? >> mr. gohmert votes aye. >> mr. buck votes aye. mr. radcliffe. >> yes. >> miss roby? >> miss roby votes aye. >> mr. johnson of louisiana? >> aye. >> mr. johnson of louisiana votes aye. mr. biggs? >> mr. biggs votes aye. mr. mcclintock votes aye. >> miss lesko votes aye. >> in klein votes aye. >> mr. armstrong votes yes. >> mr. stuby? >> mr. stuby votes yes. has everyone voted who wishes to vote. >> mr. correa, you are not recorded. >> mr. correa votes no. anyone else who wishes to vote who hasn't voted?

mr. deutsch votes no. ms. bass. >> ms. bass votes no. >> mr. jeffreys votes no. mr. sill leany votes no. mr. swalwell votes no. mr. lieu. mr. raskin. mr. neguse votes no. ms. mac bath votes no. mr. stanton votes no. ms. dean votes no. mr. escobar votes no. mr. collins, aye. mr. chabot votes aye. mr. gomer votes aye. mr. buck votes aye. mr. ratcliffe votes aye. mr. johnson of louisiana votes aye. mr. biggs votes aye. mr. kline votes aye. >> has every member voted who wishes to vote? clerical report? >> mr. chairman there's 17 ayes and 23 nos. the amendment is not agreed to. >> i have an amendment at the desk. >> i reserve a point of order. >> the clerk will report the amendment. >> the amendment to the amendment offered by mr. jordan of ohio, page 4 strike line 23 and all that follows, page 8 strike lines 10 through 17. >> and the gentleman is recognized for the purpose of explaining his amendment. >> i withdraw my point of order. >> point of order is withdrawn. >> this simply strikes the last eight lines in article 1 and the last eight lines in article ii. we've been

mr. deutsch. >> move to strike "the last word." >> gentleman istr recognized. >> thank you, mr.man. mr. chairman, the -- our colleague from louisiana is exactly right. it gets. confusing. it does. there is a lot that we've been talking about, which is why it's so important to always return to the facts. and i just wanted to set a couple of facts straight. we heard that we were somehow sent here, members of congress are somehow sent here to defend the president or to defend the president's policies. or -- or to defend an overturning of the status quo. i didn't really understand the suggestion because the fact is, and i think everyone on the -- everyone on our committee, everyone in america knows and needs to be reminded we're sent here to defend the constitution. and the constitutionde provides three co-equal branches of government. and when the president of the united states chooses to refuse to engage with the co-equal branch of government, that is, this body. when the president, through his lawyer, makes clear that he will not respect the constitution. will silence anyone who

mr. deutsch. >> i thank my friend from california. it's been about three hours since i made this point. i guess it needs to be made from time to time. we just can't simply allow the mischaracterization and the misstatement of the rules, the history of the rules and house resolutions to advance political arguments here. we can't stand for it. and so i want to address again the statements that there was some right to have witnesses come in. it is absolutely true that that's the case over 50 years ago when the rule was written, when rule 6 was written. it said its normal procedure for witnesses representing both sides of the issue to give testimony at committee hearings. and that's what happened at the december 4th meeting. and that's what happened at the december 9th meeting. let's be honest about the rules. and house resolution 660, i would point out again, provides an opportunity for the president of the united states to come. he could have come on december 4th. he could have sent any of his witnesses. and he didn't. but no one should be surprised. because that's been the president's ap

mr. deutsche seek recognition? >> move to strike the last word. >> gentleman's recognized? >> thank you mr. chairman. mr. chairman, i want to start by agreeing with mr. sensenbrenner. it is always the right time to defend the constitution, and that's the very reason that we're here. there are two articles of impeachment. the first is abuse of power. the president of the united states abused his power by soliciting foreign interference in our elections cheating the american voters. how did he do it? he leveraged life saving taxpayer funded military aid that ukraine desperately needed for assistance in his re-election campaign, and he leveraged a white house meeting that he had promised to the new ukrainian president that president zelensky desperately needed to show vladimir putin that the united states is willing to stand with ukraine, and he leveraged that meeting for assistance in his re-election campaign. that's abuse of power now any colleagues have suggested that somehow abuse of power is not a serious offense, that we should make light of the president's actions, not t

mr. johnson of georgia votes aye . .r. deutsch votes aye ms. bass votes i -- votes aye. mr. richmond votes yes. mr. jeffries votes aye. mr. cicilline votes aye. mr. swalwell votes aye. .r. raskin votes aye ms. jayapal votes aye. .s. deming's votes aye mr. correa votes yes. ms. scanlan votes aye. ms. garcia votes aye. .r. negus votes aye ms. mcbath votes aye. mr. stanton votes aye. ms. dean votes aye. .s. mcardle powell votes aye ms. escobar votes aye. mr. collins votes no. mr. sensenbrenner votes no. avetz votes no. ohmert votes -- g no. mr. radcliffe votes no. ms. robie votes no. votes no. mr. johnson of louisiana votes no. mr. biggs votes no. mr. mcclintock votes no. ms. lesko votes no. er votes no.hal mr. klein votes no. mr. armstrong votes no. votes no.-- steube >> is that every member of the committee who wishes to vote? clerk will report. >> mr. chairman, there are 23 ayes and 17 no's. >> members will have two days to submit views. the resolution will be a single amendment in the nation are -- nature of a substitute. >> mr. chairman, mr. chairman. pursuant to clause --

mr. deutsche. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, this month we commemorate the battle of the bu bulge. my late father and staff r sergeant received a purple heart fighting in the frigid area. he gave blood among tens of thousands of americans. they served under officers and a commander-in-chief worp not fighting a war for their own personal benefit. they put country first. they made the same solemn promise that members of congress and the president of the united states make. to always put national interest above their own personal interest. the evidence shows that the president broke that promise. the constitution gives the president enormous power. but it also imposes a remedy, impeachment, when those powers are abused. in july president trump said, and i quote, i have an article 2. where i have the right to do whatever i want. that's the president, closed quote. the president has broad powers including foreign policy. isn't that right? >> yes, sir. >> do those powers mean that the president can do whatever he wants? can

mr. deutsch. >> thank you. getting back to the d facts surrounding the tpresident's abuse of power using the white house u meeting as leverage for helping his political campaign. mr.s goldman, president trump offered ukrainian president zelensky a meeting in the white house.le but first, he wanted investigations into the bidens and a conspiracy theory about meddling in the 2016 election. you testified that the committees found evidence that president trump f worked to exchange official actions for personal benefit. and i want to talk about that.ic on may 23rd, 2019, a delegation ofio officials returned from zelensky's inauguration and they briefed the president.d fr in that briefing, president trumpen directed government officials to work with his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani. isn't that correct? >> yes. >> and trump's handpicked ukraine operator, gordon sondland, testified that they faced a choice. either work with giuliani or abandon the goali of a white house meeting. what choice did they make, mr. goldman

mr. deutsche. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, this month we commemorate the battle of the bu bulge. my late father and staff r sergeant received a purple heart fighting in the frigid area. he gave blood among tens of thousands of americans. they served under officers and a commander-in-chief worp not fighting a war for their own personal benefit. they put country first. they made the same solemn promise that members of congress and the president of the united states make. to always put national interest above their own personal interest. the evidence shows that the president broke that promise. the constitution gives the president enormous power. but it also imposes a remedy, impeachment, when those powers are abused. in july president trump said, and i quote, i have an article 2. where i have the right to do whatever i want. that's the president, closed quote. the president has broad powers including foreign policy. isn't that right? >> yes, sir. >> do those powers mean that the president can do whatever he wants? can

mr. deutsche. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, this month we commemorate the battle of the bu bulge. my late father and staff r sergeant received a purple heart fighting in the frigid area. he gave blood among tens of thousands of americans. they served under officers and a commander-in-chief worp not fighting a war for their own personal benefit. they put country first. they made the same solemn promise that members of congress and the president of the united states make. to always put national interest above their own personal interest. the evidence shows that the president broke that promise. the constitution gives the president enormous power. but it also imposes a remedy, impeachment, when those powers are abused. in july president trump said, and i quote, i have an article 2. where i have the right to do whatever i want. that's the president, closed quote. the president has broad powers including foreign policy. isn't that right? >> yes, sir. >> do those powers mean that the president can do whatever he wants? can

mr. deutsche. mr. deutsche votes no. ms. bass votes no. mr. richmond. mr. jeffreys. mr. jeffreys votes no. mr. sicily knee votes no. mr. swalwell votes no. mr. raskin votes no. ms. demmings votes no. ms. scanlan votes no. ms. mcbath votes no. mr. stanton votes no. ms. dean votes no. mr. powell votes no. ms. escobar votes no. mr. collins votes aye. mr. sense brener votes aye. mr. gomert votes aye. mr. ratcliffe votes yes. ms. robey votes aye. mr. gates. mr. gates votes aye. mr. johnson of louisiana votes aye. mr. biggs votes aye. mr. mcclintock votes aye. ms. lessco votes aye. mr. klein votes aye. mr. armstrong votes yes. mr. stuby votes yes. >> are there any members who wish to vote who haven't voted? the clerk will report. >> mr. richmond, you are not recorded. >> no. >> mr. richmond votes no. >> any other members who haven't voted who wish to vote? the clerk will report. >> mr. chairman, there are 17 ayes and 23 noes. >> the amendment is not agreed to. are there any further amendments to the amendment in the nature of a substitute? >> i have an amendment at the desk. >

mr. deutsch aye, miss bass aye, jeffries aye, cicilline aye, swalwell aye, raskin aye, ji paul aye, demings aye, craya aye, scanlin aye, garcia aye, geg oous aye, mcbath aye, stanton aye, scene aye, mccar sel powell aye, escobar aye, collins, sense burner, shabbat no, gomer no, jordan no, mr. buck no, mr. ratcliffe no, miss roby no, mr. gates no, mr. johnson of louisiana no, mr. bigs no, mr. mcclintock no, miss lesko no, mr. rushenthauler no, mr. kline no, mr. armstrong no, mr. stuby no. >> has everyone voted who wishes to vote? >> how am i recorded. >> collins you are not recorded. >> no. >> mr. collins votes no. >> is there anyone else. >> how am i recorded. >> sensen benner not recorded. >> no. >> sensesen burner no. >> anyone else? the equivocal report? mr. chairman, there are 24 ayes and 17 nos. >> the motion to table is adopted approximately we will now proceed to the first round of questions. pursuant to house resolution and its accompanying procedures, there will be 45 minutes of questions conducted by the chairman or majority counsel followed by 45 minutes by the rangu ranking memb

mr. deutsche and ms. bass left off. they walked us through how the president used the white house visit to apply pressure on ukraine to do his personal bidding. i want to talk about how the president did the same thing with almost 400 million taxpayer dollars to pressure ukraine do his personal bidding. so i'd like to start with turning back to the july 25th call. it's a fact that in the president's own words and the transcript submitted by him reveals that after you crane asked for military aid, trump says, i would like you to do us a favor, though. >> after president zelensky thanks president trump for the military sentence, then president trump asks for a favor. and of course by this point president trump had already placed the hold on the security assistance. >> now, my republican colleagues have suggested that the ukrainians did not even know about the military aid being withheld. is that true? >> no. there was significant evidence that even as early as july 25th at the time of this call that ukrainian officials ha

mr. deutsch. >> aye. >> miss pass. >> mr. richmond. >> aye. >> mr. jeffreys votes aye. >> mr. sis linley aye. >> mr. ras kin. >> aye. >> miss jayapal. >> aye. >> mr. core ray ya. >> aye. >> miss can lin. >> during this roll call vote, we will just update everyone on what we have heard. four constitutional law scholars and professors, three of which were brought to the committee by the democrats, said that there was overwhelming evidence that the president should be impeached. jonathan turley saying that there was an inadequate record at this point to impeach the president, more needs to be done. he was not excusing the president's behavior but said there are still a lot of material evidence that could be found out. >> all four witnesses said there's a danger afoot. three said if this is not impeachable we are undermining the entire concept of what is acceptable in the american presidency as informed by the constitution, as informed by the underlying debate that put impeachment in the constitution. jonathan turley said that's not the danger. the danger if we go forward on this