mr. dinkins to respond? go ahead, and we will recognize kelly when she comes back in. >> i would love to hear the other responses. >> be fairly brief. demand is a key. i think having strong sentences, seen, is veryve powerful and puts folks on warning. thatis a social illness unfortunately is too common, and i do not think sending pedophiles away for dirty years will prevent another pedophile from taking action. we need other avenues for treatment and to do with that issue. the heavy sentences, we are seeing life sentences in some cases. question, mr. dinkins, because i was one of the leaders on civil commitment of sex offenders, a lot of which are pedophiles, repeat offender pedophiles. have you seen anything coming out of those programs that would encourage the department and encourage us to believe this is a treatable problem? >> you know, i'm not that suited for it, but i'm skeptical it is a treatable problem. >> i would like to address the demand side question. the national association of attorney gener

mr. dinkins has oversight of enforcement initiatives and operations. prior to assuming his current position, he has held a number of leadership positions within ice, including special agent in charge of washington, d.c. and baltimore. mr. dinkins began his law enforcement career with the u.s. customs service in 1986. our third witness is ms. anne gannon. she is currently the national coordinator for child exploitation prevention and interdiction at the department of justice. prior to holding this position, she served as assistant u.s. attorney in california for nine years, where she courted native child exploitation investigations and prosecution. in 2009, she was named one of the top women litigators in california for her work combating child exploitation. she began her career as a law clerk to a district court judge in arizona. who was that judge? do you remember? >> yes, judge reynard pollin in tucson. >> our final witness is mr. joseph campbell, deputy assistant director for criminal investigation division at the fbi. he is responsible for complex