mr. diringer came to the pew center from the white house where he was deputy asis tament to the president and where he helped to develop major policy initiatives. before joining the white house mr. diringer was a veteran environmental journalist as a reporter and editor at "the san francisco chronicle" for nearly 14 years. he covered the 1992 earth summit in rio and authored several award winning environmental series mr. diringer holds a degree from college and in 1995-96 he served as neiman fellow at harvard university. our third panelist barbara finamore is with -- is the founder and director of the climate change program at the natural resources defense council. ms. finamore leads nrdc's 25 member staff in beijing to promote inknow i have -- innovative policy development capacity building and market transformation in china with a focus on climate change. critical components of initial efficiencies. green buildings. advanced energy technologies and environment law and a number of other activities. ms. finamore has had nearly 30 years of experience in environmental law and energy policy