mr. don hugh has made and we would have the sea bed authority and we would have the right to object to any provisions that are put forward. that said, there's nothing in the treaty that i've read that indicates that we would have to join kyoto or any other treaty of that type and that's coming from an organization that does not support kyoto or has serious reservations about a cap and trade regime. >> some treaties argue that if the u.s. joins the convention we'll lose jobs. does the chamber of commerce agree with that? >> no. if you expand the economy, and many of our jobs in the future come from mining, energy and trade and this clearly is a treaty that will enhance that, not detract from it, and i believe that as we have said public publicly, not only about this treaty, but about the whole energy mining and other issues, these are where a lot of the jobs in the future are, and i think they'll create jobs. >> anyone else want to comment on that? >> senator, surely, it will be a job creator and let me add one other anecdote and the keystone excel pipeline. a lot of people don't realize th