mrs. donohue. >> good afternoon. i live a half blocks from the shipyard, and i have been before the board of supervisors many times. but i would just urge for you to please, we need a complete cleaning of the shipyard. i know people that have died, three children have died here. my daughter -- daughter-in-law died in 2005, 28 years old and i was right there when they brought the navy and -- into our community. when they let them in the community over all of us, and our children. we were having headaches. they do not know what is going on. i was having headaches. i would stand before you and like the one time -- the health department can sit here but they have not spent one night there, and they have not been knocking on one door, to assess the people. how can they say that we are okay? thank you. >> i live in the bay view area. i was living there when i could see the ships coming in, leaving the debris in the bay, which they never cleaned up. those who are here listening to us, this is a dangerous area. i watched tha

mr. donohue. usurp justin in your testimony some real time monitoring fixes that hud should adopt for the home program can you quickly leverage knowing we of two minutes and 50 seconds left and specifically with those are. >> the one implemented in new york and is currently in place of the redevelopment act and what happens is ineffective concert with a grant recipient and the inspector general, the higher a reputable monitor and it goes back and real-time data back and look at the disbursement of funds it could be any manner the asked upon the person goes on site at a 70 level. the reimbursement for the courses provided for in the administration of course. >> mr. beaudette, you talked about how you had never seen an issue when hud didn't adopt the recommendations for the general's office. have you heard what the recommendations i just talked about with mr. mccurdy and i will get into the one with mr. donohue, yet putative have you heard of those recommendations? >> in this kind of setting, yes. >

mrs. donohue. >> i am here with our people organized for employment rights. we have been involved with this issue for a long time. i think this is minimizing when the navy talks about the paint that glows in the dark. it would not cost $350 million if this is all that we have. the importance of what is before you today is that this is a remedial. the second was to completely remove this. what we say is that remedial action #2 most complete complies with the proposition and will of the city and the neighborhood, and the resolution when you passed the environmental impact report. you have approved the future use of this plan, and this board was in no way suggesting support for a cap because of the contamination. the navy did not even consider the second remedial action. this only cost $87 million and we will not even consider the second option. $350 million is not unmanageable, people said they did not want this done only if this was an expensive. the navy is responsible for clearing this up. and also, will look at the lists of things to consider, we have to co

mr. donohue, you in your testimony you said that there is a need in many of the hud programs including home for hud. and the grantee recipient to aggressively monitor the sub grantees. let other programs would you recommend that this committee review? >> you mean programs that hud itself? >> yes. >> i think any grant activity in hud or any government agency -- >> or any other. >> yeah. i think any activity where a grant application are involved, i think it warrants, it has to warrant my estimation of monitoring practice not just with the grantee of the sub grantees level. and i think, i think without that, i mean, what in effect we're doing is we're telling innocent by not doing it, we're telling the grantees were not going to look at you. why would he spend the cost to go back and monitor the subgrantees? i think my estimation we can encourage wrongdoing. >> thank you. we certainly don't want to do that. that leads me into mr. beaudette, in your testimony you state that with approximately 30,000 pending individual projects at anytime, it would require additional appropriation of funds to r

mr. donohue. you're recognized for five minutes. >> thank you very much, chairman of the bar, and chairwoman biggert, ranking member copy on them, and ranking member dictators. i am kenneth donahue, former inspector general of hud and principal at the resident group firm. .. >> and the great job they did in many of these informations. my mission is independent objective reporting for the secretary and congress for the purpose of supporting a positive change in integrity, effectiveness of hud programs. that was my mandate, and i took that seriously. during my time, as john indicated, a number of investigations, but we did 60 audits of the home programs. by the way, you might recall we had an enormous amount of mandated congressional oversight after the 9/11 disaster, we had oversight of fha and ginny may, the affected gulf states of katrina and rita, and you can imagine the amount of activity that was going on, certainly, with the mortgage fraud activity. i was proactive, i had a proactive sense of