mr. donotich what is coming out this fall? >> and number of great books starting with the making of americans by e.d. hirsch who wrote a best-selling book called cultural literacy and he cares very much about what role education has and actually defining what it is to be american, and this book is sort of fighting a capstone of his career which has included many best sellers and decades of activism and education to talk about the centrality of information and knowledge and what it means to have a shared corpus of knowledge and how important it is to the national identity and how it is being threatened by the way education seems to be splintered across the country so it is a book that has a lot of argument and efficacy and ways to look forward to what the new administration can do about education. >> the other but you have brad shaw elephants on the edge, what relevance teach about humanity. >> yeah, this is a marvelous book. it's very moving, very touching. what she does here and she has quite a platform in doing this, she's b