mr. duarte and his company a cease-and-desist order which basically prevents them from farming their property. they've done this on a completely erroneous version. john: they never looked at the property, they assumed he must have? >> their order is based on available information, and despite our requests for what they base it on, they have never told us. john: now, wetlands are important. the army corps of engineers says this is habitat for fish and wildlife, flood protection, water quality improvement. >> yes, they are. they are important. they are protected and we stayed out of them. if we had the opportunity to explain exactly what our practices were before we planted any wheat, we could have solved this ahead of all these troubles. john: so what's this about? >> about due process. john: what's in their heads? >> we can't tell you that. i can tell you what's in our heads is we want to farm property sensibly, sustain plea, we know the public is demanding farming be done in a sustainable way, and we know the consumer wants sustainable operations, we're game, happy to play ball there. has to

mr. duarte and his company a cease and desist order, which basically prevents them from farming their propertyhis on a completely erroneous version of facts. >> they never looked at the property? they just assumed he must have? >> their order is based on in their words is available information. despite our requests of what they base it on, they've never told us. >> well, wetlands is important. the army corps of engineer says this is habitat for wildlife, water improvement. >> yes, they are important, they are protected and we stayed out of them. if we had the opportunity to explain exactly what you're practices were before we planted any wheat we shall could have solved this ahead of all these troubles. >> so what's this about? >> it's about due process. >> what's in their heads? >> we can't el you that. i can tell you what's in our head is we want to farm property sensibly, we want to farm it sustainably. we know the public is demanding farming be done in a sustainable way and we're game. we're happy to play ball. but there has to be a reasonable process for the regulators to oversee that. >>

mr. duarte and his company is cease and desist order.they just assumed he must have? >> their order is based in their own words on available information. despite our requests on what they base it on, they have never told us. >> wetlands are important. the army corps of engineers says it's habitat for fish and wildlife. >> they are important. they are protected and we stayed out of them. and if we had had the opportunity to explain exactly what our practices were before we planted any wheat, we could have solved this ahead of all these troubles. >> so what's this about? >> it's about due process. this -- >> what's in their heads? >> we can't tell you that. i can tell you we want to farm property sensibly. we want to farm it sustainbly. we know the public is demanding it be done in a sustainable way. we're game. we're happy to play ball. but there has to be a reasonable process for the regulators to oversee that. >> tony, the pacific legal foundation sees lots of these cases. the bureaucrats always want more power. they mean well, i assume