>> i think that's directed at -- >> mr. duffy and then mr. sanchez can comment on his view. >> well, we never fight with planning. we certainly like a lively discussion about the planning code and the requirements in san francisco. >> sorry. >> that's all it is, there's always a good conversation without one. the rear stairs and decks are difficult because as i said, and i respect the planning code, obviously, but they are, as building when you are dealing with a building code, and wore dealing with something that's deteriorated and dry rotted, i don't want to have to tell these people not to use the back deck and stairs because it's an ' grass path and our permit process where are we at with that and that's where i'm coming from. without disrespecting the code, i do think that -- there's just thinking out loud, we node to hear from the engineer and architect. can we do a minimal repair on the deck to allow it to remain and repair the stairs. i'm not sure if that's possible. but what i did hear mr. sanchez said the stairs could be replaced as

i assure mr. duffy and mr. sanchez, no permit and no plans equal illegal construction and i didn't say it before but i was a building inspector for 25 years in san francisco and i know that statement for a fact. no one has a permit and plans and they're illegal. i don't think it's an arduous task to determine the legallality of it, no permit and no plans equals illegal. in this open space, this is a big issue. once this space disappears, it will never come back. this is not about the current family moving in, they'll be moving out at some time. i'll be moving out or dying. there's going to be a flux of people. everyone who has access including those lots who have been precluded have having open space, they would like to have their windows open to a little space. i think it's, you know, this is not being addressed properly in this variance nor the permit application. thank you, very much for your time. >> thank you. we will now hear from the determination holders. mr. molds. >> thank you so much. well, i just wo

mr duffy had been unable to join a single training session due to coronavirus quarantine but was clearly not as a practice of the tackling front. and for a while at least he and his team mates managed to keep the visitors in check. but going forward the hosts only threaten the lights a goal just once in the 1st time off and even that was all for a mishap from nobody with caylee and if striker mark root felt unlucky there there was worse to come a shout because danger man had to be subbed off with the slight injury. and while things were already looking bad for shell. muki early headed light into the lead given far too much space by the stuffing the man brought in to shore up the shock of defense. by at least shall come ascot evins still looked sort of upbeat but in the 2nd half missed all feel looked out of form and off the pace 2nd place lights really took control. of the ball. they gave a footballing lesson in the 70 certain. in it a no nonsense but super slick move sealed by super muscles sub it so you know my this was mr face 1st day in his native in this league but here he wasn't fe

>> i think that's directed at -- >> mr. duffy and then mr. sanchez can comment on his view. >> well, we never fight with planning. we certainly like a lively discussion about the planning code and the requirements in san francisco. >> sorry. >> that's all it is, there's always a good conversation without one. the rear stairs and decks are difficult because as i said, and i respect the planning code, obviously, but they are, as building when you are dealing with a building code, and wore dealing with something that's deteriorated and dry rotted, i don't want to have to tell these people not to use the back deck and stairs because it's an ' grass path and our permit process where are we at with that and that's where i'm coming from. without disrespecting the code, i do think that -- there's just thinking out loud, we node to hear from the engineer and architect. can we do a minimal repair on the deck to allow it to remain and repair the stairs. i'm not sure if that's possible. but what i did hear mr. sanchez said the stairs could be replaced as

making an impact his immediate mission was to ensure that it would not be plain sailing for lights h mr duffy had been unable to join a single training session due to coronavirus quarantine but was clearly not asked of practice the tackling front. and for a while at least he and his team mates managed to keep the visitors in check. but going forward the hosts only threatened the lights gold just once in the 1st half and even that was all for a mishap from north. and it's strike a mark root felt unlucky there there was worse to come a shout because danger man had to be subbed off with the slight injury. and while things were already looking bad for shocker. he headed light into the lead given far too much space by was stuffy the man brought in to shore up the shock of defense. by at least shall come ascot elvin still looked sort of upbeat but in the 2nd half mr feel looked out of form and off the pace as 2nd place let's say she really took control. of what. they gave a footballing lesson in the 70 certain. in it and no nonsense but super slick move seals by skipper marcel sub it so. was this w

mr. sanchez. >> thank you. >> clerk: thank you. i do see that i believe deputy director duffyesent. deputy director duffy, did you want to participate in this case? >> just to add that d.b.i. does have a few standing complaints and notices of violation, as well, and still haven't received permits to comply, but that's all i have to add. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. >> president honda: i have a question for you. so if you become permanent deputy director, does that mean we lose your expertise on wednesday? no, joe. >> clerk: no. >> i'm a long way from being permanent, president honda, but we'll keep you posted. >> president honda: okay. thank you, joe. >> clerk: thank you. is there any public comment on this item? if so, please raise your hand. i see -- one moment -- if you called in to provide public comment, you could dial star, nine, and that will be the equivalent of raising your hand. okay. i don't see anybody raising their hand, so we will move onto rebuttal. mr. jadallah, you have three minutes. >> no -- well, i can -- if you guys can do the whatchamacallit, deny the

mr. sanchez. >> thank you. >> clerk: thank you. i do see that i believe deputy director duffy is still present. deputy director duffy, did you want to participate in this case? >> just to add that d.b.i. does have a few standing complaints and notices of violation, as well, and still haven't received permits to comply, but that's all i have to add. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. >> president honda: i have a question for you. so if you become permanent deputy director, does that mean we lose your expertise on wednesday? no, joe. >> clerk: no. >> i'm a long way from being permanent, president honda, but we'll keep you posted. >> president honda: okay. thank you, joe. >> clerk: thank you. is there any public comment on this item? if so, please raise your hand. i see -- one moment -- if you called in to provide public comment, you could dial star, nine, and that will be the equivalent of raising your hand. okay. i don't see anybody raising their hand, so we will move onto rebuttal. mr. jadallah, you have three minutes. >> no -- well, i can -- if you guys can do the whatchamacalli

mr. sanchez. >> thank you. >> clerk: thank you. i do see that i believe deputy director duffy is still present. deputy director duffy, did you want to participate in this case? >> just to add that d.b.i. does have a few standing complaints and notices of violation, as well, and still haven't received permits to comply, but that's all i have to add. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. >> president honda: i have a question for you. so if you become permanent deputy director, does that mean we lose your expertise on wednesday? no, joe. >> clerk: no. >> i'm a long way from being permanent, president honda, but we'll keep you posted. >> president honda: okay. thank you, joe. >> clerk: thank you. is there any public comment on this item? if so, please raise your hand. i see -- one moment -- if you called in to provide public comment, you could dial star, nine, and that will be the equivalent of raising your hand. okay. i don't see anybody raising their hand, so we will move onto rebuttal. mr. jadallah, you have three minutes. >> no -- well, i can -- if you guys can do the whatchamacalli

. >> thank you, mr. duffy. >> thank you. any public comment on item 14a through d?>> no one is online. >> 15. review and approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of november 18, 2020. >> motion to approve minutes. >> second. >> there is a motion and second. public comment there are no public comments. are all commissioners in favor. >> aye. any opposed? the minutes will be approved. thank you. last item is 16. and adjournment. -- adjournment. >> so moved. >> second. thank you. we are now adjourned. it is 1:54 p.m. >> thank you. . >> my name is angela wilson and i'm an owner of the market i worked at a butcher for about 10 years and became a butcher you i was a restaurant cook started in sxos and went to uc; isn't that so and opened a cafe we have produce from small farms without small butcher shops hard for small farms to survive we have a been a butcher shop since 1901 in the heights floor and the case are about from 1955 and it is only been a butcher shot not a lot of businesses if san francisco that have only been one thing. >> i'm all for vegetarians if yo