mr. dunleavy, mr.ny others, is it true that three member of domestic terrorists recruit plots all had contacts with prisoners in new york prison system? >> yes, it is. in the lack of the case, there were individuals directly tied to those six that were also visits inmates and taking phone calls from inmates in new york state. with respect to the virginia case and with respect to the argan case, names of inmates and islamic clergy, i believe were found on hard drives by the individual. >> great. i'd like to ask each one of you to briefly answer this. what would you individually like to see become the work product that results from this hearing? start with you, professor. >> well, i think the first thing is the mission of the hearing is something that i agree with. >> well, but other than raising awareness, obviously the chairman has done a good job of that with us. but i would think that y'all are looking for statutory changes, behavioral changes. >> i think one thing is we -- more than just awareness,