mr. dunlop. >> thank you very much, and thank you for your work on this, and the two of you just must have -- boy, that's a lot of work in a very short amount of time -- two days or something? amazing. and i, yeah, so i'm very grateful for your work. and it's going to take a lot of conversation to get it all -- pull it all out of you. but i think that it seems to me that the most important thing is the funding question. and the funding question to permanently fund it and that means that 50 years from now that it's not going to be falling apart because there's no money. we really have to look at that and make sure that what we put up is also what we can actually afford. and we're not leaving some huge debt for future generations, that we're leaving an ed fis that we can all be proud of that will always be there. and i know that will be a major part of our conversation. and it probably should be a part that just goes parallel as we talk about what we're doing, like, you know, again, beautiful dog p

mr. dunlop? >> secretary dunlop: thank you. first, a quick follow up on that statue that you were talking about. is that going to be visible from, let's say treasure island or the city, 'cause i didn't quite catch how tall it's going to be, and will it be lit and what the aspects of are of. >> president tsen: well, the arts steering committee and selection committee have been involved in the choices of the artists, and i think we're so incredibly just blessed that we have some great artists who did respond to calls for proposals. i think the one on yerba buena island at the very top is going to be by hiroshi sujimoto. he's world renowned. his sculpture will be seen from, i think, all different points, and it is called infinity, and it rises, i believe, about 60 feet, kevin. >> 66 feet. >> president tsen: 56 feet. >> 66 feet. >> president tsen: 66 feet. but it's called infinity because it goes from a space about 3 feet to 1.25 inches at the very top. but it's also great because it marks the seasons. at the equinox, the shadow wi

mr. dunlop, please. >> just two quick questions. the first one -- does this subphase approval -- does that include the toll issue or is that separate or later? >> this is -- the subphase application is primarily an infrastructure design related document. it does include some of the mapping type of details like i just discussed. but the tolling discussion, that's a separate avenue and that's ultimately an action by the treasure island mobility management agency commission which is the board of supervisors wearing a different hat. >> thank you. and then, gosh, one of your diagrams it noted a 65-foot height limit. do we have buildings in that first phase that are going to be that tall? or is that just, you know, something that you have to put in to keep it in case? >> i'll go back and look at that. but we have buildings in the first subphase that are on treasure island that, you know, the infrastructure is under development right now. is this the parcel? yes, i think that this is... so in the first subphase that's under construction we