first of all, mr. duran came here today and kind of laying out how he felt the negotiations went, and open they are to further negotiations, and that was important. and mr. patterson's point of view that he really doesn't want this to be upheld because it affects the overall business plan for his client, and i get that as well. so the question is, is mr. graham -- forgive me if this is inappropriate or appropriate -- i would be interested to hear what your position would be. i have just one question for you, where you would weigh in on -- commissioner walker, to your point, if we were to, let's say, not uphold it here today and send you guys back together to talk further, and honoring kind of both parties, really. one is, obviously, you need more time and exploration on a possible settlement, based on the last settlement, which i thought it was a good step forward. obviously it has to be vetted. and mr. patterson's position that he would rather not have this upheld today and give us more time to work out a d