mr. durbin: the republican majority. mr. mccain: on this issue, which then lends, i think, more weight to the argument that as there was in the case of valerie plame and jack abramoff for the need for a special counsel. mr. durbin: i don't see the connection. if the attorney general and the president said we're not going to investigate this matter, senator mccain, i would be standing right next to you on the floor calling for a special counsel, but they have said just the opposite. they have initiated the investigation and brought in two career criminal prosecutors whom we have trusted to take public corruption cases in the district of columbia and leaks of classified information in other cases, and he said now you have the authority, conduct the investigation. they're not ignoring this. mr. mccain: those two counsels report to who? the attorney general of the united states. mr. durbin: ultimately report to the people. mr. mccain: i would think just for purposes of credibility and with the american people, that a special cou

mr. durbin: the republican majority. mr. mccain: on this issue, which then lends, i think, more weight to the argument that as there was in the case of valerie plame and jack abramoff for the need for a special counsel. mr. durbin: i don't see the connection. if the attorney general and the president said we're not going to investigate this matter, senator mccain, i would be standing right next to you on the floor calling for a special counsel, but they have said just the opposite. they have initiated the investigation and brought in two career criminal prosecutors whom we have trusted to take public corruption cases in the district of columbia and leaks of classified information in other cases, and he said now you have the authority, conduct the investigation. they're not ignoring this. mr. mccain: those two counsels report to who? the attorney general of the united states. mr. durbin: ultimately report to the people. mr. mccain: i would think just for purposes of credibility and with the american people, that a special cou

mr. durbin: will the senator yield for a question? mr. graham: absolutely. mr. durbin: the senator asks whether this side would like to explain the position. i'd be happy to do it at this point but i could wait until you've completed your colloquy so it's your choice. mr. graham: whatever you'd like to do, i'm dying to hear how you think it's good government not to have a special independent counsel investigate the most damaging national security leaks in decades. i'm dying to hear your explanation. mr. durbin: you don't have to die. i hope you'll continue to live a good life because you're such a great senator, but i'm asking you do you want notice join in this dialogue or would you rather make your presentation? mr. graham: why don't we let my colleague speak and then you'll have all the time you need. senator chambliss, what do you think? mr. chambliss: well, i'm dying to hear his explanation, too. let me just say that. well, first of all, let me say that i join in with everything my two colleagues have said with respect to the -- number one, the volume of the

mr. durbin: that's right. mr. reid: is the kind of activity that china wants to get from the chamber of commerce. remember, madam president, that's only one way they get this information. with the numerous instruments we carry around -- blackberries, iphones, all of these instruments, every one is a vehicle to find out what's going on in my life, your life, the life of the chamber of commerce, and so i can't imagine how my republican friends can follow this lead. i don't know how -- we've had republican leaders in the past on security. they've all said do something about this. i would love to have a bipartisan bill to work through this. some amendments. i don't expect anyone to think that the bill that senator lieberman and senator collins did is perfect. but it is a lot better than nothing. and i hope that people when we vote on this tomorrow will invoke cloture and pass their bill. i had no choice but to file cloture and i will continue towork with all senators to find out if we can reach a compromi compromise.

mr. durbin said to applause from the immigrants. this is a force of people who have grown up in this country and want to be part of this future they're -- future they're crating. jake, go ahead. caller: yeah, i haven't been able to get through for six months so i hope you give me a couple of minutes about this issue. i'm a working guy, in roofing and siding for many years, long before there was a mexican for hundreds of miles hey, i wonder, the democrats mingle with hispanic hispanics, where they live. if you look at the migratory and meeting patterns of white liberals they did not live near the people they love to claim so much, blacks or hispanics. it's the working class whites that have to live with their compassion. in 1916, wao*pbd row wilson sent 5000 soldiers into blackjack pershing, seventh calvary, remained on the southern border, secured every square inch. that's the history. 1953, eisenhower acted, american people demanded tens of thousands of legals be deported, joint military law enforcement operation removed tens of th

former new york city rudy giuliani and dick durbin join us from their home states to talk about this campaign. mr. mayor, i want to start with you. i want to ask you about your remarks about the vice preside president. did you really say at some place along the way-- i mean i heard you in the sound bite at the top of this broadcast-- that you were worried-- >> i said it. >> schieffer: you what? >> i said i-- after not knowing what state he was in, not knowing what century he was in in 24 hours, and making what i would consider to be an absolutely disgusting appeal to racial sentiment, i said i wonder if he's got the mental capacity to be the president of the united states. >> schieffer: do you really mean that or are you just using that as a mott for? is that campaign talk or do you really think he's nuts? >> oh, no, i don't think he's nuts. i'm just saying i wonder if he has the kind of balance-- probably what i should have said is the balance to be president of the united states. this guy is like one gaffe after another, and he's a-- he's a joke on late night television. i think they've also lo