mr. edelstein: definitely yes. mr. davis: definitely yes. the one thing i would add, i think it is important to define what we need to accomplish to address the things you described, but also to allow technology to evolve quickly. evolves but it is still not installed, we should mandate it is installed. mr. davis: we should define requirements to make your that things are secure. mr. kass: we need the appropriate controls, but i agree we need to do it any very balanced way that does not kill innovation, innovation is like a waccamaw, it will pop up someplace else, so we need a way of ensuring to mention that there are controls in place, it is not setting innovation, but rather helping it. >> but having it over the years, people can get away with out protections against privacy, it saves money. whack a bad person. mr. kass: it is innovation. somebody is going to innovate and it needs to be us. >> at the same time, we then have to tell people who do not want to install the safety protections that they have to do it. mr. kass: fair enough. >> t