mr. eidemiller? in my pronouncing that correctly? >> that's correct. he gets mangled quite often. adio days come back to save me. >> good morning mr. chairman and members of this committee. i'm the director of engineering and technology for impact systems. we are small startup start up company that produces a better pharmacy called impact. the future prescription packaging. called impact. invented by a 71-year-old navy vet named dick lee from a small town population 85. this is impact. it's a flat pharmacy bottle. this is the traditional round bottle. this is our bottle. this is tradition. impact has many advantages, the most important are this file is tamper evident. this file is not. this bottle of water is tamper evident, this prescription is not. our entire drug supply chain we have more security in this than we do in this. hard to believe. we also have a lot more label space. so it's much easier to read. and lastly, it's much more space efficient, much more compact. m-pack is made in the united states in eerie, pennsylvania. we're adamant about our production and producing it.

mr. patrick eidemiller is director of technology at amtech systems. mr. todd everett is chief operating officers of new logistics incorporated. the witnesses will be sworn in before they testify. please rise and raise your right hand. you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth -? all witnesses answer in the affirmative. be seated.nd you may a housekeeping matter -- it is my understanding that the house will have votes around 10:40. that'll be a long series of votes. so i want to get everything covered by 10:40 so you do not have to sit around for over an hour while we go vote. an i might be able to make earlier flight back to texas. it would be a win-win if you abided by the timer here that gives you five minutes for your testimony. we will then ask questions. your entire written testimony is a part of the record and is available for this committee and others to review. so we will start with mr. cochrane, you are recognized for five minutes. >> good morning, chairman fare

mr. eidemiller. i came in, you were describing difficulties with the postal service.s it the case that you went to u.p.s. instead? >> well, we spent over two years really believing that the post office was the best solution. we still believe the post office is the best solution. they offer service that nobody else offers. and at a certain point, being a fairly self-funded business with a limited amount of runway you kind of put your wood behind the arrows that you believe in. and after reaching the end with the post office we approached u.p.s. and they said, great, we love the package. we'll give you a great rate for it. they're talking about a dollar from origin to destination. second day service at worst. >> mr. cochrane, did you have a response to that? >> i'd like to weigh in on it. thank you for the opportunity. the fact is that we have different automation. we have over 10,000 pieces of automation in our network. it's a very complex network, as i said in my opening comments. and we do delineate and differentiate letters from flat type mail, catalogs, magazines i

mr. eidemiller? make it gets mangled quite often. i'm used to it. >> good morning mr.man for the impact systems we are a small startup company that produces a better pharmacy for the future of prescription packaging. by the 71-year-old navy veteran from a small town and the california population 85. this is impact. this is the traditional roundabout. this bottle of water is evident, this prescription is not. we have more security in this event we do in this. hard to believe. we also have a lot more legal space so it is much easier to read. last it is much more space efficient and compact. it's made in the united states and pennsylvania. that is another reason i'm here today. the usps provides a favorable rate for the machine. this is a parcel. it is $2.22. this is a dollar 56 cents for the taxpayer for every prescription medication that gets built out in the united states. realizing what we had with file as one of the largest by mail we send the opportunity to save the taxpayers money and provide a better and safer through the mail and through the post office. it'offic