harper first, then mr. ellis, then mr. willing. >> there are many interesting things. i'd be grateful how we can result this fundamental the security services will tend to trust us, this is a problem but we can't prove it to you. there is simply no way to explore that properly. issue that the terrorism, like pedophiles as my is eague said earlier, clearly something that you can't do anything to stop it. for is often used to argue further legislation. what is the solution to this problem? we avoid being in this constant position where security say things l just and there's no way to accomplish it? we need to have those eventually side, how can we break that down? >> well, okay. briefly as possible -- this is clearly at the heart of it. and in the real world, this is going to come back to parliament and parliament is going to congress -- all countries with security services are going to work out -- going to have to work out this of oversight. s seem to me mittee talent the political and the society that you represent the public interest of things that are not purely secu

harper first, then mr. ellis, then mr. willing. >> there are many interesting things. but i think i'd be grateful how we can result this fundamental problem that the security services will tend to trust us, this is a problem but we can't prove it to you. and that there is simply no way to explore that properly. we also have the issue that terrorism, like pedophiles as my colleague said earlier, is clearly something that you can't do anything to stop it. this is often used to argue for further legislation. what is the solution to this problem? how can we avoid being in this constant position where security services will just say things and there's no way to accomplish it? we need to have those eventually to the other side, how can we break that down? >> well, okay. as briefly as possible -- this is clearly at the heart of it. and in the real world, this is going to come back to parliament and parliament is going to have -- congress -- all countries with security services are going to work out -- going to have to work out this question of oversight. but those committees

spent i don't think why you should move on. >> order, mr. ellis. mr. winnick. >> perhaps you're fortunate not to be in a moscow courtroom in the 1930s, mr. rusbridger. were you surprised at the amount of intelligence gathering which was revealed as result of what snowden gave to your newspaper and other media outlets? >> i think many people are staggered by the amount of speed you yourself, if i may interrupt. were you staggered and surprised? >> i was staggered. i think we all knew that the intelligence agencies collected a lot of data, and people are still trying to make out as though nothing has changed in the last 15 years since the laws were passed. we have a lot of analog laws that deal with the digital world. i think the last series law that was passed about any of this matter was 2000, which was at a time when facebook hadn't been invented and when google+ to doing its initial funding round, and were pretending that the laws that covered really crocodile clips on copper wires are stretchable to do with the collection of maybe 3 billion phone ev

mr. ellis, then mr. williams. >> there are many -- how we can result in fundamental problems, and to approve it to you. there is simply no way to do that. and this is to argue further legislation. what is the solution? how can we be in position, there's no way to establish this because of the oversight, how can we break that gap? >> it is possible. in the real world this will come back to parliament and parliament and congress and all countries are going to work out their question of oversight, the same committees must contain the technological challenge and representatives of civil society that can represent public-interest in things that are not properly secured. >> your internal exchange, the documentary called we steal secrets, and encrypted documents to this point. in an online interview on buzz feed with david miranda, one of the stocks of the guardian was due to carry stolen secret files, dot.com speech and federal express. did you learn federal express conditions include subsection 16, that that

ellis act vs. local laws and i'd like to ask our city attorney and mr. chow from the mayor's office if you think we're at where we ended up. >> so supervisor chiu i'm looking at the different dings i think for the easy of today's process we'll recommend forwarding the version we had overwhelming and as we review it i think the city attorney has offered we can substantially amended the act through legislation rather than try to compare the existing versions today that is not consistent with the other version. it's an opportunity to make them - >> i think it was clear we agreement the lapsing to add an additional around the life-threatening illness around the physicians so if you want to restate that language for the record. >> i'll do my best. it's basically, the amendment that you and i discussed 5 minutes ago i said i read in and which is that you maintain the current - if the tenant can verify that he or she is suffering from an life-threatening optimums from he or she physician or disabled under the administrator code 37.9 i. this version would preven

mrs. lee i'm here today because you know i was also a victim of ellis eviction. my landlord used the outlines to evict me i found a place to live with my family. i'm glad for the community support and the city government and also the board of supervisors. i'm really here today to not talk about myself but those still out there still being evicted and displaced. i recommend and suggest that in the city we really need to think and to look deeply in how to address the eviction issue. for a lot of people that applied for the applications those are people we need to think about because when it comes down to it i don't believe the ellis act should be used by landlord as a way to evict tenant. in particular our city we need to take a course of objection action in that regard. there a lot of seniors people that are disabled have a hard time finding housing. at the same time, they have tripod so hard to apply for themselves. i support the legislation and preference for those who are displaced. it's an tuesday night to get into those units faster. at the same time, you kno

mr. russo also told nbc's rehema ellis, he knows the release will upset a lot of people and wishes it was not coming so close to the rear of the anniversary of the shooting, he doesn't want there to be secrets about what happened that day. nbc news will be reviewing the tapes but for now we're choosing not to air them due to the sensitivity of the issue. let's bring in michael smerconnish. thank you for joining us here. i want to read a quote from senior vice president kathleen carroll regarding the push to make them public. it's important to remember that 911 tapes like other police documents are public records, reviewing them is a part of normal news gathering in a responsible news organization. your reaction as we await to hear more about these tapes that are to be released any minute now? >> emotionally i'm sympathetic as we think we are all to the parents lost in the tragedy. i get it. i get the judicial decision. i just read the freedom of information act commission report in connecticut and tamron, they saw it as a pretty straight forward matter. they said the connecticut law deman

francisco's tenants through changes to the ellis act and through full implementation of the housing trust fund. thank you. >> i have the second and final question for today. mr. may yo, every day, we are seeing rental and homeowner ship prices -- reach san franciscans, to address our current affordability crisis, your office has been working with me and community members to prioritize housing, stabilize housing for people who live in non-permanent inlaw units among other initiative, while building subsidized affordable housing won't solve the crisis, we also know that last year's voter approved house fund will approve 1.3 billion dollars nor low and middle income san franciscans in the coming years, can you provide us with an update in the plan for the near future as well as other housing programs supported by the trust fund, what creative approaches can we do today, and what else can we do to [inaudible] on-site as they construct market rate housing? >> thank you, president chiu for your question, and certainly i will currently -- currently 20% of what is being built in the city is permanently affordable housing for our low-income households and working cla

mr. president, you are first to introduce new items. president david chiu: i'm introducing this item with mayor lee to support state law amendments to support control over the ellis act to prevent abuse and no fault evictions. we all note that the city has seen significant job growth and unemployment growth in the past few years since our unemployment rate has declined from 10 percent to 5 percent. while our population has increased we have seen an increased demand for housing. the ellis act has allowed 6,000 units to be withdrawn from our rental market. the ellis act has been used by new owners who purchase the building of evoking the ellis act for their own reasons. we have seen trends where they are buying the rental units and then changing them. we also know that speculators who have used the ellis act to evict tenants and those most vulnerable of our city. given the fact that we do not have time to wait for ellis act evictions to take place before establishing more local control that we need do everything we can to stem the tie of speculative evictions. this calls for our may and -- mayor and board of supervisors to restrict ellis act evictions to restrain t

mr. mandela's host on that day was the mayor of bedford, councillor carole ellis. sadly, councillor ellis is seriously ill at present, but i know that she is so proud of her own and of bedford's part in mr. mandela's story. between 1986 and 1990, the right honorable gentleman member for bermondsey and old southwark , i and peter pike, the former member for burnley, made three visits to south africa at the invitation of the followers of christ working for a peaceful resolution of the situation there. on our return from our first visit, on june 17, we made joint speeches in a debate here in the house of commons, referring to each other as our honorable friends -- a point duly noted by hansard. we had gone together -- safety in numbers -- at a time when the anc was still banned, the political situation was deteriorating, violence was abroad, and where the isolation of south africa was impacting on the flow of anything but very polarised information. we were able to report back to our respective party leaders on what we found. i had half an hour with an anxious, worrie

mr. president, you are first to introduce new items. president david chiu: i'm introducing this item with mayor lee to support state law amendments to support control over the ellis act to prevent abuse and no fault evictions. we all note that the city has seen significant job growth and unemployment growth in the past few years since our unemployment rate has declined from 10 percent to 5 percent. while our population has increased we have seen an increased demand for housing. the ellis act has allowed 6,000 units to be withdrawn from our rental market. the ellis act has been used by new owners who purchase the building of evoking the ellis act for their own

ellis is the chief executive officer of chieflogic trade corporation in texas. mr. wynn-stanley owns several businesses including a catering company, a software company and a consumer products company. welcome. >> chairman collins, ranking member velasquez and members on small business, thank you for allowing me to testify today on the health care law with small businesses such as ours. i'm ellis winstanley. i own a business with my parents and partners. i own a small collection of businesses, including restaurants. on behalf of the restaurant association and trade association for the restaurant industry. i am a successful businessman with a track record of starting and turning around businesses in the hospitality, construction, software, printing and apparrel businesses. my brother and i got started in business while we were attending the university of texas. currently we own eight restaurants with our partners which i oversee day to day on a day-to-day basis. we're also partnered with our parents in small businesses. in addition we own software development compani

ellis is the chief executive officer for tradelogic in austin texas. with several family members mr. winstanley owns a number of business including restaurants as opera company and promotional products company. welcome. >> chairman collins ranking member of velazguez and members of the house committee on small business thank you for the opportunity to testify today on the effects of business segregation was included in the health care law on small businesses like ours. my name is ellis winstanley and i'm the ceo of tradelogic. i own business in austin texas with my twin brother and other partners. on behalf of the national restaurant association leading trade organization for the restaurant food service industry. and industry. i'm a business executive with a successful record of starting up turning run a growing businesses and hospitality construction software printing and promotional products and industries. my brother and i are entrepreneurs get started in business while we were students at the university of texas. we are known for rescuing will open historic restaurant brands and

. >> our next witness is ellis winstanley the officer of trade logic corporation of austin texas. with several family members, mr. winstanley owns a number as mrs. including restaurants, a catering company, software company and a promotional product company. welcome. >> chairman collins, ranking member velazquez, the committee on small business thank you for the opportunity to testify on the fact the effect included in the healthcare law on small businesses like ours. my name is ellis winstanley and i'm the ceo of tradelogic corporation. i am a member of businesses in texas with my twin brother, parents. i'm honored to share the perspective of the company and the restaurant on behalf of the national restaurant association. i'm a business executive with a track record of starting up into turning ouindeterminate for grog businesses in the hospitality. my brother and i were entrepreneurs who got started in business while we were students at the university of texas and we were known for rescuing the local restaurant brands and turning them around as a contributor and job creators. currently we own eight restaurants