engle correct or disagree with any part of the story from mr. ornato? >> mr. engle did not correct or disagree with any part of the story. >> did mr. engle or ornato after that tell you that what mr. ornato said was untrue. >> neither told me ever that it was untrue. >> trump in part, denying some of the damning claims from hutchinson's testimony she made under oath. pamela brown is out front live on capitol hill. what more are you learning tonight. >> reporter: erin, i spoke to a capitol police officer who was here on january 6th and heard the hearing today, said he felt a sense of betrayal listening to cassidy hutchinson's testimony, relaying the warning signs chief of staff and mark meadows willfully ignored time and time again and while it was shocking to white house aides, one former aide of trump i spoke to said it was all 100% believable as well given how chaotic things were behind the scenes at the white house as trump tried to overturn the election results. >> as an american, i was disgusted. >> bombshell testimony from surprise witness cassidy hutchin

rosen and mr. engle and others. the president became desperate with january 6 fast approaching. president trump rushed back early from mar-a-largo and called an emergency meeting with the department's leadership. here's mr. donahue describing the last minute meeting held at the white house on new year's eve. >> the president was a little more agitated than he had been on the meeting on the 15th. he discussed a variety of election matters. he did said this sounds like the kind of thing that would warrant appointment of the special counsel. there was a point at which the president said something about why don't you guys seize machines? >> mr. rosen, the president asked you to seize voting machines from state governments. what was your response to that request? >> that we had seen nothing improper with regard to the voting machines. i told him that the real experts of that had been at dhs and they had briefed us that they looked at it and there was nothing wrong with the voting machines. so that was not something that appropriate to do. >> there's no facts you'll basis to seize mach

mr. engleed his arm and said you need to take the hand off the steering wheel, we are going back to the west wing, we are not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to launch towards bobby angle -- bobby engle, he made a motion towards his clavicle's. >> was he in the room as you were being told this story? >> he was. >> did mr. engle correct or disagree with any part of the story? >> he did not correct or disagree with any part of the story. ros: let's bring in anthony z., joining us from washington. we have heard a lot of accounts of what happened that day. why is this testimony different? >> well, this testimony is diffent because this is firsthand testimony -- at least in some of these instances -- of what was going on in the white house at that rally, at the ellipse, a grassy area outside the white house. she testified how trump knew there were members of the relic road who had weapons and he said -- rally crowd who had weapons and he said to go to theapitol . you could sa

mr. bob he engle. when mr. renato recounted to story toward me he motioned his clavicles. >> nick, what is the level of this testimony as criminal evidence? >> it's pretty spot-on. i mean, what we didn't know about before today, and we had a hunch -- at least it was mybidd. he was not going to send the electoral votes back to the states. he wasn't going to disregard them. so, what trump -- what it showed today was trump as final game plan was to use violence, was to stop the vote of the electoral count through violence. >> is this -- i'm just pressing you on thisser if precision. in your mind, is this the first time we have had an eyewitness inside the trump white house directly link him to encouraging armed violence? >> that's right. before, we had nobody, not -- forget inside the white house, we had no evidence linking trump to the violence. remember, at his second impeachment hearing, he was claiming that his statements at the ellipse were simply guaranteed by the first amendment. he was trying to encourage

mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle and when mr. rinoto recounted the story to me, he motioned towards his clavicles. >> to be clear, we do not have any corroborating evidence from the story and both of the secret service agents testified before the committee. i don't know if they were asked about that story or if they have a contradiction, but congressman raskin said they haven't heard anything contradictory about it. still, a very stunning image and i think it was jeffrey toobin who noted if somebody told you 15 minutes before the hearing we would hear this scene, you would say, come on, that's not going to happen. >> and then 15 minutes after, you say i bet donald trump would do something like that actually, because i gasped out loud when i heard her describe it, but he was so erratic that day. to know, if you have ever worked a presidential event, take down the mags, like, that is protocol 101. you don't go into a presidential event without magnetometers. >> remember the guns come nothing to this event were not for him. >> his p

mr. engleed his arm, said "sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel, we're going back to the west wing, we're not going to the capitol." mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle. when mr. renado recounted this story to me, he motioned towards his clavicles. >> reporter: it wasn't the first time trump had exploded in rage. hutchinson described seeing what happened a month earlier after attorney general bill barr declared there was no significant fraud in the election. >> ms. hutchinson, how did the president react to hearing that news? >> i first noticed there was ketchup dripping down the wall. there's a shattered porcelain plate on the floor. the valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general's ap interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall. >> miss hutchinson, was this the only instance that you are aware of where the president threw dishes? >> it's not. there are several times throughout my tenure with the chie

mr. engle, we know that attorney general barr announced on december 1, 2020, that the department of justice had found no evidence of widespread fraud that could have changed the outcome of the election. so from december 1, 2020, until today, as you sit here, have you ever doubted that top line conclusion? >> no, i've never had any reason to doubt attorney general barr's conclusion. >> thank you. pursuant to section 5 c 8 of house resolution 503, the chair now recognizes the gentleman from illinois, mr. kinzinger for questions. >> thank you, mr. chairman. in the weeks leading to january 6th, the department of justice was fielding almost daily requests from the president to investigate claims of election fraud. each claim was refuted time and time again. an effort attorney general barr described as whack-a-mole. when each of the president's efforts failed, he went to installing a new attorney general to say the election was illegal and corrupt so he could stay in power. president trump started le

and so the president immediately turned to mr. englen, would you? he said absolutely i would, mr. president. you leave me no choice. and then i said, we're not the only ones. no one care flss if i resign. but you're going to lose every single aide. your entire department of leadership will walk out within hours. and i don't know what happens that. i don't know what the united states attorneys are going to do. we have u.s. attorneys in districts across the country can. and my guess would be that many of them would have resigned. and that would then have led to resignations across the department in washington. and i said, mr. president, within 24, 48, 72 hours, you could have hundreds of resignations of the leadership of your entire justice department, because of your actions. what is that going to say about you? >> mr. engle, what was -- can you describe what your reaction was to that? >> yeah. i think when the president -- my recollection is when the president said steve, you wouldn't leave, would you? i said mr. president, i've been wi

mr. engle grabbed his arm, said, "sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel." mr. trump used his free hand to lunge toward bobby engle. >> reporter: the committee played videotaped testimony when she recalled a conversation with her boss, trump white house chief of staff mark meadows. >> they were getting close. have you talked to the president? he said, he wants to be alone right now. >> reporter: she testified that white house counsel pat cipollone approached meadows about trying to stop the violence. >> i remember pat saying something to the effect of "mark, we need to do something more. they're literally calling for the vice president to be effing hung." and mark had responded something to the effect of, "you heard it, pat, he thinks mike deserves it." >> reporter: hutchinson said she understood that president trump knew his supporters were armed but that he wanted the metal detectors removed because they would reduce the size of his white house ellipse crowd. >> i overheard the president say something to the effect of, you know, i don't effing care that they ha

sources now telling "the new york times," mr. engle, mr. ornado, and the driver of the suburban are prepared to confirm to the committee another damning finding from her testimony, that president trump demanded agents bring him to the capitol to join his supporters, even after they emphasized the dangerous scene playing out there. now, at least two former trump white house officials, alyssa farrah griffin and olivia troye, have come forward claiming that tony ornato does not have a reputation for telling the truth, and two members are painting a member of tony ornato who has a close relationship with trump and his team. >> mr. ornato did not have as clear of memories from this period of time as i would say ms. hutchinson did, if that's a fair assessment there. >> a suggestion there from congresswoman murphy, there were many more "i do not recalls" from tony ornato than there were from cassidy hutchinson. now, republican committee member adam kinzinger tweeted, there seems to be a major thread here. tony ornato likes to lie. the question of

mr. englerabbed his arm, said "sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel, we're going back to the west wing, we're not going to the capitol." >> chelsea: when grabbing the steering wheel didn't work, he grabbed the car by the [ bleep ]. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] fortunately, trump sat back down and patiently waited for his car to arrive at the white house. just kidding. of course that's not what he did. >> mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle. when mr. ranaudo recounted the story to me, he motioned toward his clavicles. >> chelsea: that is no way to treat the secret service. that is how you treat a contestant in the dressing room of the miss universe pageant. [ laughter and applause ] sadly, there is no footage of trump grabbing the wheel, but i imagine it would look something like this. [ laughter ] hutchinson also relayed details of what happened when trump's attorney general, bill barr, told him there was no evidence of election fraud. >> the

mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle, and when mr.ony ornato had recounted the story to me, he motioned towards his clavicle's. >> joining us now, congress man adam schiff, a member of the january six committee. and the lead impeachment manager for the first impeachment trial of donald trump, in the united states senate. congressman schiff, do you have any other evidence about what happened in that car? >> i can't comment on other evidence or testimony before the committee. all i can say is that i found cassidy hutchinson to be a thoroughly credible witness. telling us what she saw, what she heard. she was very careful to differentiate when she was a participant in the conversation, or actions were related to her by others. she was careful to tell us what she didn't know. and as a former prosecutor, the meaning of those are all in a show of reliability, and credibility as a witness. i found her account to be very very credible. i also thought frankly. of all of her testimony what was most important and i found most shocking is that th

mr. engle grabbed his arm. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle.ney general's ap interview. and had thrown his lunch against the wall. >> they were literally calling for the vice president to go f'ing home. and he responded you heard him, he thinks he deserves it. said something to the effect of and very clearly, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood's going to be on your f'ing hands. >> a former aide, delivered a bombshell at the january 6

the president immediately turned to mr. engle. he said steve, you wouldn't resign, would you? he said absolutely mr. president, you leave me no close. we are not the onones, no one cares if we resign. steve and i go that is fine but you will lose your entire leadership. every one will walk out within hours. and i don't know what happens after that. i do not know what the united states attorneys are going to do. we have u.s. attorneys in districts across the country. my guess would be that many of them would have resigned. and that would then have led to resignations across the department in washington and i said mr. president within 24, 48, 72 hours you will have hundreds and hundreds of resignation of the leadership of your entire justice department because of your actions, what is that going to say about you? >> let's discus now. former assistant white house prosecutor. watergate prosecutor. thank you very much for joining us. what do you think he said. you believe there would be hundreds and hundreds? >> i think it would be pretty damming what would happen. it was reminiscen

mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle, and when mr.ounted the story to me, he motioned towards his clavicle's. >> joining us now, congress man adam schiff, a member of the january six committee. and the lead impeachment manager for the first impeachment trial of donald trump, in the united states senate. congressman shift, do you have any other evidence about what happened in that car? >> i can't comment on other evidence or testimony before the committee. all i can say is that i found cassidy hutchinson to be a thoroughly credible witness. telling us what she saw, what she heard. she was very careful to differentiate when she was a participant in the conversation, or actions were related to her by others. she was careful to tell us what she didn't know. and as a former prosecutor, the meaning of those are all in a show of reliability, and credibility as a witness. i found her account to be very very credible. i also thought frankly. of all of her testimony what was most important and i found most shocking is that the presidents acknow

mr. engle grabbed his arm, said sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle and when he recounted the story to me, he motioned toward his clavicles. >> that was cassidy hutchinson relaying what the secret service agent in charge told her, and so it's a story that only engle and rinoto i think were present for, she was not. she did not see it happen. do you have any corroborating evidence? you have interviewed both rinoto, the committee has interviewed rinoto and engle, two secret service agents. do you have any corroborating evidence that that story is true or do you only have it from cassidy hutchinson. >> well, the story she told is the evidence that i'm aware of, at least within -- >> her story is the only version you know. >> i have not seen anything to contradict it, and it's corroborated by everything we know about donald trump's eagerness to not just incite this march and assemble the march and form the march and exhort the p

mr. engle grabbed his arm, said sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free renato recounted the story to me, he motioned towards his clavicles. >> i confess i can never recall ever having heard an example of a president trying to physically hijack his own motorcade. have you? has anyone if you have to remember this day was long in the making and trump wanted to savor every moment. it was trump himself who invited everyone to washington the previous december saying it was going to be wild. we have already heard from trump's former white house adviser steve bannon making clear that what was to come on the day before january 6th. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it's going to be moving. it's going to be quick. >> all hell is going to break loose. and today, we learned that trump's intention to be at the capitol was not some spur of the moment decision. hutchinson described a conversation she

and that mr. engle was present and didn't deny it. come under oath and deny it, fine. the real point is, no one is denying that the former president wanted to go to the capitol and lead this armed mob, and be there while they attacked the capitol. that is the point. and it -- no one can deny it. that she actually heard the president himself talk about removing the effing mags, and that the armed supporters were not going to hurt him, that they can march from the ellipse to the capitol it is stunning, and the most important revelation of all of the things she testified to. >> one of the reports today said that hutchinson was one of the witnesses who was sunday message described by vice chair of the committee, liz cheney, as potential witness tampering. on that issue, you said something tonight in another tv interview that i wanted to ask you about. you said, quote, in a prior hearing we talked about the hundreds of millions of dollars that the former president raised, some of that money is being usedto pay for lawyers, for witnesses, a

this guy who i just declared was completely incompetent and the president immediately turned to mr. engle he said, steve, you wouldn't resign, would you and he said absolutely i would, mr. president. you leave me no choice i said we're not the only ones no one cares if we resign. if steve and i go that's fine. you will lose the entire department leadership and your ag will leave you and the entire department will walk out within hours and i don't know what happens after that. >> almost every assistant attorney general had committed to resigning as well rosen told the committee that clark was unqualified for the job, not just because he didn't have the experience, but because he was willing to go after all those false claims of election fraud and the president knew it. >> the president turned to me, and he said well, one thing we know is you, rosen, you aren't going to do anything you don't even agree with the claims of election fraud, and this other guy at least might do something. >> at one point white house attorney pat cipollone told trump that if clark were appointed ag he'd be overse

and so the president immediately turned to mr. engle said, steve, you wouldn't resign, would you? and he said, absolutely i would, mr. president, you leave me no choice. and then i said, and we're not the only ones. i said, mr. president, within 24, 48, 72 hours you're going to have hundreds and hundred of resignations of the leadership of your entire justice department because of your actions. what's that going to say about you? >> steve pointed out that jeff clark would be left leading a graveyard. >> jeff clark that name i told you about, leading a professional graveyard. today jeff clark is dealing with the federal rate of his house. he went from being potentially the head of the doj to someone being raided by fbi agents. and the final point that came through here, although the committee was careful not to oversell it, so i'm going to put a period on it. we hear so much about donald trump as this wiley, reckless, sloppy, disorganized person who just does whatever he wants over and over and over. and sure, you can point to examples o

mr. stephen engle, former assistant attorney general for the office of legal counsel. he was nominated by the former president and confirmed by the senate during the trump administration. he served from november 2017 to january 202 is and has now returned to private practice. i will now swear in our witnesses. the witnesses will spleez stand and raise their right hands. do you swear and affirm on the penalty of perjury that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you god? thank you, you may be seated. let the record reflect the witnesses all answered in the affirmative. i now recognize myself for questions. first of all, gentlemen, thank you for being here today. all of you served at former president trump's pleasure at the to my knowledge in top leadership positions with tremendous responsibilities. former attorney general bill barr told the select committee that before he left the department in december 2020, he told president trump on at least three occasions there were no evidence of widespread election f

mr. trump then used his freehand to lunge towards bobby engle and when mr.ronato he referred to his clavicles. >> it waint the first time the president exploded in rage describing the ketchup she saw dripping down the wall after trump learned his attorney general bill barr had publicly rejected trump's false claims of election fraud. >> the valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general's a.p. interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall. >> as trump supporters reached the capitol on january 6th and violently forced their way inside, she says the chief of staff initially did nothing. >> said, hey, are you watching the tv, chief? he said, yeah. the rioters are getting really close. have you talked to the president? he said no. he wants to be alone right now. hutchinson said cipollone finally got meadows' attention. something to the effect of mark, something needs to be done or people will die and the blood will be on your f-ing hands. she said the president was unmoved even when told that his supporters were chanti

mr. engle grabbed his arm. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle. the valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general's ap interview. and had thrown his lunch against the wall. >> they were literally calling for the vice president to go f'ing home. and he responded you heard him, he thinks he deserves it. said something to the effect of and very clearly, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood's going to be on your f'ing hands. >> a former aide, delivered a bombshell at the january 6 hearing. cassidy hutchinson testified that donald trump and chief of staff mark meadows ignored warnings about potential violence before the attack and did nothing to stop it once the attack was under way. according to hutchinson, trump knew there were weapons in the crowd but during his speech at the ellipse, still ordered his supporters to march to the capitol. and new details about efforts close to trump to intimidate witnesses who have cooperated in the congressional investigation. >>> good morni

mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle when mr.nato motioned towards his cliffassify cals. in there the president says this is laughable. she was essentially the chief of staff to the chief of staff. you can not push aside who she was and the access she had. the secret service said in a statement yesterday, the agents involved are prepared to testify under oath. they are told those agents dispute those accounts somewhat. if you are in trump land, you refuse to listen and you laugh at her credibility. >> absolutely. that is one of the things, i was testifying to aides, that's what they were saying, trying to diminish her role. before trump said i barely knew her. she was barely around. many people were for a lot of these lawmakers close to trump at the time saying she tried to stay on after leaving the white house and we all pushed back. we said she isn't credible. she isn't trump worthy. her testimony isn't going to sway anyone within the base. it's not going to sway voters. this is not top of mind for them. when it comes to this u

mr. trump then used his free handing to lunge towards bobby engle. when mr. ornato told me the story he motioned towards his clavicles. >> hutchinson described the moment rioters were closing in on the capitol she said the white house counsel went straight to mark meadows urging action. >> and i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the rioters have got to the capitol, mark. we need to go down and see the president now. and mark looked up at him and said he doesn't want to do anything, pat. and pat said something to the effect of, and very clearly said this to mark, something to the effect of, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood is going to be on your effing hands. >> today hutchinson also revealed that rudy giuliani and her boss, the chief of staff, mark meadows, were among those who asked for a presidential pardon in the aftermath of january the 6th. >> did rudy giuliani ever suggest that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th? >> he did. >> ms. hutchinson, did white

mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle. >> o'donnell: president trump was warned for days not to interfere with the electoral count of the votes by his own white house counsel. >> we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable. >> o'donnell: tonight's other top headlines: how long the socialite who help jeffrey epstein abuse young girls will face behind bars. plus the rush on the morning after pill after the supreme court abortion ruling. and the new details in the deadly migrant tragedy in texas. ♪ ♪ ♪ this is the "cbs evening news" with norah o'donnell, reporting from the nation's capital. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> o'donnell: good evening, to our viewers in the west and thank you for joining us on this busy tuesday night. as we detail for you the bombshell testimony today in the january 6 hearing. history is important. during the watergate hearings 50 years ago, there was only one surprise witness. it was alexander butterfield, who revealed there was a white house taping system. hea well, in the january 6 hearings, the surprise witness is cassidy hutchinson. then-chief o

oranato or mr. engled me it was ever untrue. >> and despite this altercation this physical altercation during the ride back to the white house, president trump still demanded to go to the capitol. here's what kaylee mcenany, the white house press secretary set wrote in her personal notes and told the committee about president trump's desire to go to the capitol after returning to the white house. >> when you wanted to walk to -- potus wanted to walk towards the capitol, was there anything he or anybody said after w5erds? >> to the bet of my recollection, i believe when we got back to the white house, he said he wanted to physically walk with the marchers. according to my notes, he then said he'd be fine just riding the beast. to my recollection, he wanted to be a part of the march in some fashion. >> and just for the record he refers to the presidential limousine? >> yes. >> president trump did not go to the capitol that day. we understand that he blamed mark meadows for that. >> so prior to leaving the r

mr. engle grabbed his arm, said sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel.al times throughout my tenure with the chief of staff that i was aware of him either throwing dishes or flipping the table cloth to let all the contents of the table go onto the floor. as an american, i was disgusted. it was unpatriotic. it was un-american. we were watching the capitol bidding get defaced over a lie. it's still -- i still struggle to work through the emotions of that. >> did rudy giuliani ever suggest that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th? >> he did. >> did white house chief of staff mark meadows ever indicate that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th? >> mr. meadows did seek that pardon, yes, ma'am. >> so that was conservative congresswoman liz cheney interviewing under oath a conservative white house staffer, both of them republicans. so how are republicans on capitol hill reacting? melanie zanona has that story. tell us more. >> i can tell you, jake, that privately, many house republic

mr. trump then used his free hand to lumpleg towards bobby engle. >> o'donnell: president trump was warneds not to interfere with the electoral count of the votes by his own white house counsel. tonight's other top headlines:

mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle. >> o'donnell: president trump was warned days not to interfere with the electoral count of the votes by his own white house counsel. >> we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable.

mr. trump then used his free hand to lung toward bobby engle and when mr.ng it to me, he grabbed his clavicle. >> chief of staff tony onoto, said he would testify to it under oath. and the agency is not denying the former president was angry about not being taken to the capitol. only whether or not there was an altercation. but now other trump white house aides, communications director alyssa ferrot and olivia troy are pushing back against the supposed denial. they say this wouldn't be the first time he denied conversations with he had with his former colleagues and orn atto to to the white house adviser was highly unprecedented at the time. it is still employed right now by the secret service. >> he obviously is a trumper. he's all in. could we put up those tweets again before we bring in carol. i just want to look and see. there is a guy that -- went from being secret service guy to working for trump, to secret service guy. olivia troy said, tony onaughto. those of us would worked with tony know where's his loyalties lie. he should testify under oath. and

mr. katskee: the test the court used in engle was in direct coercion. the court said indirect coercion matters too. indirect coercion of students of minority faiths to conform to a religious practice is an establishment clause violation. that was not, if you don't join the prayer you are off the team, that was the sort of situation where students can reasonably understand and hear very much students and parents understood that you have to go along to get along. that is what it means to play football. to determine otherwise, to say that is not coercion would require getting rid of cases all the way back to engle and schempp. justice kavanaugh: i'm going to stop either and challenge you on that. i don't see why the court cannot say -- and i'm not saying this is what we should do, just to put on a line-drawing. engle and santa fe remain in place, and santa fe applies to a locker room or huddle, but we are not going to extend santa fe to something beyond that, really, for the line-drawing. the sign of the cross example, we had a discussion about that, and t

trump asked another official, steve engle, steve, you wouldn't resign, would you? absolutely i would, mrent. you would leave me no choice. and then what happens within 48 hours wes have hundreds of resignations from your justice department what does that say about your leadership. trump reportedly turned to clark, thanked him for his willingness and told him he would keep the current leadership in place. >> wow. >> so, admiral, what's most frightening about this. >> there are a lot of things we've already said to feel good about, people that stood in the gap. but what's most frightening, and the guys in the article mentioned it. we worked for him. he's a level-headed guy. harvard law -- no, harvard undergrad. georgetown law school. bush justice department, kirkland and ellis, they knew him -- they're like, this isn't the rue he was. another example of somebody put in this position who lost their head. >> yeah. >> who became power hungry and were willing to trash the constitution. and actually get in the way of the peaceful transition of power for the first time in american history. >> ye

engle. this cospark interest over which lawmakers requested pardons. the committee contends gop pennsylvania representative scott perry asked for a pardon. perry denies it. mrd in the decision of house minority leader kevin mccarthy to pull gop members from the committee. the former president says there is no one there to defend him. >> how do you respond to former president trump who complained in an interview over the weekend there are no republicans who are defending him against the january 6 committee. >> one thing i would tell i talked to the president yesterday, he is excited mayra that the democrats held for more than 100 years. reporter: today mccarthy says he does not regret having representation on the committee. this may be the last time we hear from the 1/6 committee until mid-july. the committee is sorting through information to filmmaker alex holder. he had deep access to trump's universe after the election. holder spoke to the committee behind closed doors, today, neil. neil: thank you very much. bob cues cac "the hill" editor-in-chief. when you and i were talking these might not move the needle, that trump lovers will love him and trump hate