. >> and mr. ergen? >> no. >> okay. thank you. now, mr. ergen, i have a question for you with the auto hop issue, as you testified in your statement, and i think everybody knows, the auto hop technology lets consumers skip over commercials and other things that they don't want to watch, and as you said that would mean that when kids are watching tv they wouldn't have to see junk food and alcohol commercials, i would submit that as the fall approaches, many viewers would skip over the shock and awe tv commercials that everybody will be treated to in the campaign this fall -- >> so. i'm sorry? >> and the volume, too. i think the volume is the issue, but if people had auto hop it would let them decide what they wanted to see. now, i know that this is in the courts right now, but talking not about the legal issues, the consumer choice and innovation in the