mr. erodgan.at the end of the day, he really got away with the protest country inf of the the bed with the western powers. and since then, same rhetoric. it is very clever and fortunate for a country that was so close to become very real claim in the like anow the explained middle eastern authoritarian regime. we explain every single problem as a plot, including -- including the mr. zarrab case. we don't know what mr. zarrab is going to talk about. once he is talking, i think, according to experts, he will open lots -- implicate lots of other people and we won't see those indictments very soon. so if he is talking, this may change -- trigger events that may go on for a while. and nobody know from turkey side, who is in the indictment list. >> it sounds like this could be a real pandora's box for u.s.-turkish relationships laying out a minefield for us to navigate in the near future. you agree with the assessment? >> yes. >> on that optimistic note, we will end for today. thank you for joining us.