>> mr. ervin. >> tonight. i have just a couple of questions. mr. warren, hostility to this november 20, 2009 what are the kbr from todd bishop to dcaa any reference to anything both of the dead in the last round of questioning that kbr brought to the government specifically said to's attention that under utilization of class and that there were numerous communications are unique to the government that affect in the city provide all that to us. essentially, what was -- did you get a response from dcma and what was its response? >> i do not know that we got a response. >> mr. laboa? >> mr. ervin, there were discussions. i do not looking back over all the data see a formal response. and we, to my knowledge, did not make a formal written letter. these were briefings that were taken to the third expeditionary support command and discussed. >> so is discussed at lower levels which are seen? it was never elevated to the attention of higher authorities? >> it was discussed at the right level because the third ese, expeditionary support command is the group

and there's no doubt, you know, mr. ervinralized view of the acquisition services, the air force has, perhaps the navy and army need to do that. we need to have a more integrated review. it's just a recognition, mr. commissioner, that the fact is that we have just got a lot of work to do in this area, and it's the recognition that this integrated workforce as you mentioned, there's no doubt as we go forward, contractors will be on the battlefield. >> well, if that's the case, and that's not exactly news, but let me just state for the record, i am absolutely flabbergasted that something as important as this, and you just laid it all out, and i totally agree with you, mr. assad, something as important as this could not command a single instruction, a single directive, a single objective, a single gold even in the qdr. will the gentleman yield? >> absolutely. >> sometimes i think in order to be able to say what we need is a we have to speak in tongues. what i think i heard you say was that you belief there should be major emphas

and there's no doubt, mr. ervin brought up the idea of having centralized view of the acquisition services the air force has, perhaps navy and army needs to do that. i agree with it. you know, we need to have a more integrated view. it's just a recognition, mr. kerry -- mr. commissioner, that the fact is that we've just got a lot of work to do in this area, and it's the recognition that this integrated workforce as you mentioned, there's no doubt as we go forward, contractors will be on the battlefield. >> if that's the case and that's not exactly news. let me just take for the record, i am absolutely flabbergasted that something as important as this, and you just laid it all out, and i totally agree with you, mr. assad, something as important as this could not commit a single instruction, and single directive, a single objective, a single goal even in the qdr. >> will the gentleman yield? >> absolutely. >> sometimes i think in order to be able to say what we need is a we have to sneak it in. what i think i heard yo

commissioner ervin, please? >> thank you, mr. chairman. like my colleagues i want to thank both of you for being here. i applaud you for being here and i applaud your companies for sending you here. i also want to stress that i've heard it said by some that the commission is biased against contractors. that's not the case. and certainly i'm not biased against contractors. i am only too happy to give kudos to companies that i think have done exemplary work. and that that have gone to extraordinary lengths to make sure you don't run afoul over the various applicable laws and regulations. and so i want to preface my question with that statement. that said, i want to go needless in some details and most of my questions are for you, mr. ward. with regard to aecom one of the things you talk about in the written statement that you submitted for the record on page 51 is the instance where there were overbillings on aecom's part. and you quite rightly and appropriately and commendably brought those over-billings to the government's attention. you d

commissioner ervin, please. >> thank you, mr.chairman, like my college i want to thank both you've been here today. i applaud your companies for sending you here, and i also want to stress that i've heard it said by some that the commission is biased against contractors. that's not the case. certainly i am not biased against contractors. i'm way too happy to give kudos to to companies that i think have done exemplary work and that have gone to extraordinary lengths to make sure that you don't run afoul of the various apical laws and regulations. so i want to preface my questions with that statement. that said, i want to go into some details that most of my question offer you, mr. ward. with regard to aecom one of the thank you doctor in a written statement that she's there for the record on page 51 is the instance where there were over buildings on aecom's part. and you quite rightly into programming and commendably brought us over the to the governments attention. you did line by line as i understand, on its went sigurd looked a