strong neighborhood fabric that is part local security and part just governance, neighborhood watch, and trust for each other. >> thank the gentleman. the gentleman from florida, mrmiller. >> thank you, mr. chairman. general mcchrystal, welcome, sir. in your opening statement, you made a comment about defeating al qaeda, and then in the same line you said you must disrupt and degrade the taliban's capacity. could you explain for us the difference between defeating al qaeda and degrading the taliban? >> certainly. i believe that it's u.s. policy, and i believe it's an important objective that the taliban be defeated. and that means over time, wherever they are around the world, they must be prevented from being a threat against either the united states or our allies. i think that will take many years and it won't be just an american effort, it will be all of our partners. but where they are, i believe al qaeda both as an organization and as an ideology needs to be defeated. and that will require a lot of muslim nation partners as well. in terms of taliban, what i think we need to do there, sir, is -- and we had an extensive discussion about the term defeat. i thin